• michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Your choice of words is an analytical failure it says that the the will somehow sitting on top of all those processes rather than being a function of them.

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      I don’t think my wording implies that the will is sitting on top of those processes, but rather that it’s an emergent property of them. You’re the one who’s implying a false dichotomy - just because our choices might be influenced by prior causes doesn’t mean we don’t have agency. I’m asking what makes you think our actions are predetermined, not what makes you think we have some kind of magical free will that defies causality. Can you actually address the question I asked, rather than nitpicking my phrasing?

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        If your choices are a function of prior events and an emergent property of complex but deterministic processes where does agency come in? We are a complex deterministic process that simulates our own self to both predict a much more complex unconscious self and write rules to influence it going forward.

        We call this process being conscious even when its writing just so stories after the fact.