The Firefox ToC discussion pushed me down the browser engine rabbit hole (again). Have you had a chance to daily drive some really good but obscure web engine that is not Gecko (Firefox), WebKit (Apple) and Blink (Chromium)? How viable is it for a complete switch - this includes banking, chatting, logging into websites, etc.
Edit: Added link to the Firefox discussion to give better context to my question.
I’m going to stick with some form of Firefox fork, personally. Chromium forks are questionable, as if I recall right they include a binary blob provided by google, which could be hiding god knows what.
Firefox is fully open source, so any code supporting this potential data harvesting can’t hide, and will be removed by most forks.
I used librewolf until there was some concern about them updating in a timely manner.
Now I used Firefox with Phoenix to maybe get the best of both worlds and IronFox on mobile.
with the recent news of a ToS from FF which forks would you recommend as a daily driver to replace FF?
Librewolf has been solid for me. I’ve seen others plug waterfox as well
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I’ve been using IronFox on mobile since Mull went away, but I’m ready to hear why that’s a bad option from anyone who knows better.
So far its worked very similarly to Mull, in that I’ve had no issues with it so far. I don’t do banking or financial shit on my phone though, so I can’t comment on how well it works for that functionality.
Zen
Reminds me to check out lynx again.
I’ve used librewolf and it seems good but I’m not a browser expert.
Fennec (Firefox based)
seamonkey but it’s pretty hard to use without much love nowadays with so many incompatible websites. It’s a perfect mail client tho.
Just get Firefox ESR with arkenfox, that should be enough.
I’m really hoping the new ladybird browser is delivered sooner than expected
GNOME Web (Epiphany)
I kind of daily drive it as I made webapps with it for some services I host (which Firefox still doesn’t offer natively)
The UI is quite nice but it isn’t always the smoothest in terms of performances. Still, a very respectable effort
Epiphany is making headway. It’s gotten much better in the last year or so.
I can still crash it with too many tabs, JS sometimes makes it crash, and the extension experience is bad, but it’s gotten better.
It is covered by WebKit call out though.
Zen for desktop: https://zen-browser.app/
Ironfox for mobile: https://ironfoxoss.org/
On one of my OSes, I still use Brave.
Brave is a series scam company.
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Yeah; unfortunately on that particular computer, it’s the only modern browser that still functions. I don’t trust it with anything.
If the question had been “what trustworthy browsers do you use?” I wouldn’t have mentioned it.
No real data to backup this claim other than complaints about their addons which can be disabled, and their CEO doesn’t have the best morals and principles. Like we all believe the exact same things everyday all day.
Multiple highly reputable non profits and other sources show the browser itself performs as one of the best when it comes to privacy. Leave the negativity against Nestle.
I’m trying out waterfox for mobile and librewolf for desktop. No complaints so far
Just don’t try to schedule a video for publication in LibreWolf; its time zone obfuscation will totally have it publish at an unexpected time unless you figure that out first! I’ve been on Waterfox for both mobile and desktop and have enjoyed them equally.
where did you get Waterfox on Android? The Playstore or F droid?
Used F-Droid to download aurora store (open source client for the play store) and used Aurora for waterfox…
thanks, i asked because the Google PlayStore has WaterFox from waterfox.net. Not sure if this is real or fake, because other Fox forks can only be installed from Fdroid like Mull/Fennec
Articfox librewolf
Is Arc considered obscure?
If you want obscure, I can recommend Lagrange. It can browse only gemini pages though, so you can’t visit your favourite html websites.
Gemini is so weird and cool! My first day with it really made me want to start a little microblog on it or something