• arc@lemm.ee
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    I do feel sorry for Tesla owners - pre 2025. People bought Teslas in good faith believing this company was heralding green, emissions free vehicles. Which it more or less did. They weren’t expecting the CEO would out himself as a Nazi even if there were clues he was a terrible piece of shit. Being an asshole is one thing but Musk out-Henry Ford’ed Henry Ford.

    So if you’re going to discriminate, target >= 2025 owners where this is common knowledge, not those before. That said, the Cybertruck is and was a fucking terrible vehicle and deserves criticism on its own awfulness outside of any political dimension.

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      I mostly agree, but I’d set the cutoff date sometime around 2023, maybe up until 2024 for someone completely checked out of the Internet and/or Elon’s bullshit. It’s part of why the CT is targeted so much in this way, but not the model 3 or S. There are a lot of people who just wanted an electric vehicle when Tesla looked like one of the more compelling options (mostly due to marketing than actual features/reliability but what can you do about that in hindsight).

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        He threw a car into space in 2018 for the lulz… Dude was nuts long before 2025.

        Also elon is not tesla, even if he want you to believe he is. Don’t feel bad if you own an electric car, unless it’s the swasticar.

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    This guy has the perfect out to set it on fire and scam the insurance company out of money and they chose this. 🙄

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        If the plan is valid and covers fire damage, yup. You’d still have to argue with them like any other time you make an insurance claim. Now will insurance companies write or renew Cyber Trucks, I’ll assume yes but at higher rates.

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    I would like it of people would do something a lot more organized and effective with their anger at musk.

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    Musk was randomly accusing people of being a pedo YEARS before the cybertruck was released. No sympathy. User error for agreeing to that contract.

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    Sounds like their fault for being stupid enough to buy something you aren’t allowed to sell for a year.

    That’s a red flag.

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      Never heard of having to sign a contract like that for a simple vehicle purchase, that is insane. Wonder if they implemented that after the string of “obvious lack of quality assurance testing” type failures popping up on social media

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    All other things considered, that car just looks laughably shit. Idiots and their money…

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    Of course I feel sad for them. The people of New Orleans deserve better than having swasticars in their midst.

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    I feel sorry for the people who bought a cybertruck ignorantly without knowing anything about Elon Musk. However, how would that be possible in this day and age?

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    Even forgetting the Nazism and Musk, those things should be vandalized for being offensive to my fucking eyes. For being a bad product. For being a dangerous product.

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    99% of these bozos bought the thing based on identity. Statistically the CT is proving to be one of the worst put together EV’s in automotive history. Silicon Valley and the techbros have been playing supremacy games for 25 years. So what if just now the hammer drops. They played sycophant, and didn’t want to hear the left’s warnings.

    FAFO

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    A bit, yeah.

    By and large the market for the Tesla cybertruck is going to be people with more money than sense. Those people I can’t really have any sympathy for. My advice to them is to park the truck in your garage and drive literally anything else that you own from what is sure to be a selection of different cars.

    For those that purchased a CT at the end of their finances, and could only barely afford to justify it, I feel for them. They can’t easily buy something else to drive, and the contract forbids them from selling anytime soon. They put in their orders long before Musk was actively demonstrating how much of a shit head he really is. These people are just regular folks who wanted a truck, bought the Tesla branded sales pitch, and thought it was a good investment over alternatives like rivian. IMO, they’re victims just as much as the government employees that used to work in DEIA departments, and USAID.

    Then people are taking out their frustration and causing material harm to those duped by the world’s richest man… Double jeopardy.

    None of what Elon did is their fault. People are causing them material harm. You’re not hurting Elon with these shenanigans, and you don’t know that the person who is suffering is a part of the same club that Elon is. Err on the safe side and leave people’s property alone, please.

    I don’t like Elon, and I don’t like Tesla. I have no sympathy for either if they go down in flames. I do, however, feel bad for all those who are being materially harmed by all this horse shit. They didn’t ask for this, they just wanted an electric car that goes vroom on batteries.

    Edit: seems like a lot of people disagree, that’s fair. I want to clarify that the subset of people who own a cybertruck that I have any sympathy for, is a pretty small group.

    The fact that some of them have my sympathy, does not, and should not imply that I agree with Elon, support his supporters, or think every person who owns a cybertruck is “good underneath it all”. Absolutely not. The vast majority of them are either rich assholes that deserve what they get (eat the rich!) or those that have thoroughly invested into whatever Elon says being the way things should be. In both cases, these are people with no socially redeeming qualities, and 100% deserve what they get. This easily covers 90%+ of owners. The small percentile that went through with their purchase, who are just average Joe’s trying to make their way in the world, who thought a battery electric truck is a good idea; those who just happened to land on cybertruck as the result of their decision, and have no horse in this race otherwise… Which again, is a very small number of purchasers, those people I have some sympathy for.

    If you disagree with that, then I’ll happily hear your opinions on the matter. Please feel free to comment. You’re entitled to have an opinion as a free person, and you can express that in whatever way you feel is appropriate.

    No matter what, I wish all of you a good day.

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      I’d argue that the ultimate cost of these shenanigans is, in fact borne by Tesla and therefore the Nazibro that owns the most shares.

      People are put off driving and owning one because they worry about it getting trashed means less sell, and the share price falls.

      Side-effect of hurting the fee-fees and finances of the pompous arseholes that bought that stupid shit in the first place?

      Awesome.

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      I look at it this way. There are a lot of people being harmed by Musk’s actions that didn’t choose to put themselves in harm’s way. That is not these people. I reserve my sympathy for those that had no hand in getting fucked over by a billionaire. People who either chose to put themselves in harm’s way and those that chose to ignore all of the signs that they were putting themselves in harm’s way can get in fucking line.

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      Leon prominently threw in with the nazis a couple months before the CT started shipping. People so thoroughly ignoring politics and red flags until they themselves are hurt is precisely why we’re in this whole mess. Why are you carrying water for them, when of all the people that have been hurt by all this they are among the people who had it best until now and had the clearest warning signs to date?

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        Not trying to carry water for anyone. I’m just not sure supporting destruction of someone else’s property is the move here.

        This is just a discussion, and nobody needs to agree with me. Clearly there’s plenty of opinions here and mine is one of them. I’m not going to say anyone should agree with me.

        For clarity, the subset of cybertruck owners I have any sympathy for is a small group. The most significant argument I have, mostly to myself, is that I don’t know who owns what vehicle, so personally, I would not partake in any vandalism because though it’s likely that the person who owns the vehicle is by all definitions a shit head, the possibility that they’re not is enough for me to refrain for getting involved.

        But make no mistake, if I was proof positive that some Elon loving nazibro was the owner of the vehicle, no holds barred. Fuck that guy and the cybertruck he rode in on.

        Clearly, many people are convinced that anyone who owns a cybertruck is a nazibro, shithead, who agrees with Elon and his fuckary.

        Believe what you want. I believe in realistic freedom, not the “freedom” that’s being pedaled by the chronies doing damage in Washington, where their version of freedom strips reproductive Rights away from women. As such, you are and should be free to express your opinion in whatever way you feel. I’ll fight anyone who tries to say otherwise.

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      These aren’t commuter cars, or work vehicles, there is no practical reason to own one. They are a status symbol of musks politics. The venn diagram of people who own these and wear maga hats is essentially a single circle. There is a daily growing number of struggling american families who deserve sympathy and almost every one of the folks who paid six figures of disposable income for the opportunity to support musks politics are not victims.

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        I like the look and still kind of want one, maybe I can pick one up cheap from someone selling.

        Also I think trump and maga are stupid.

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        Yeah, the use of ‘and’ seems to support your reading. It was a very controversial take on my part. I just read fast enough so things make less sense.

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    I do feel bad, yeah.

    Having bad taste in vehicles and too much money to spend on stupid things doesn’t really warrant destruction of property. Being mostly unaware of the political statements of a CEO (which, at the time of the Cybertruck’s release or when people were ordering it he wasn’t nearly as deep into this crap as he is now) isn’t really a crime either…

    Well…