What counts as Nato if not literal member states? Is it not an international military alliance??? By your logic the Axis didn’t invade Europe, just individual Axis members.
It really doesnt help his case that one of the few (perhaps the only?) time that NATO article 5 was triggered was during 9/11 and re:afghanistan (which again its p lol)
Not really, the government of Afghanistan didn’t attack the USA, that was bin Laden and the Afghans offered to hand him over via a third party nation, he was eventually found (according to their own account) in Pakistan and not Afghanistan. And that’s not even getting into the weeds of how the cia financed at least two of the highjackers, norad failed to intercept planed that deviated from their flight paths or the project for a new amerikkkan century.
oh, most definitely, but G.W. Bush did trigger article 5 and there were meetings about it. They even concluded that indeed a foreign enemy had attacked sovereign soil of the U.S.
Afghanistan, Libya, and Syria are a few examples.
Afghanistan was started by a nato country, not nato.
Syria and Libya rebels definitely were helped by NATO countries, but still not NATO itself.
Russia definitely played a role too in those.
I’m not trying to deflected blame from western countries. But NATO itself was not involved.
you deserve a gold medal in mental gymnastic Olympics
So long as it’s made out of gold, not from gold.
“Afghanistan was started by NATO, not NATO”
I’m not responsible for shooting that guy, it was just my hand, not my entire body
What counts as Nato if not literal member states? Is it not an international military alliance??? By your logic the Axis didn’t invade Europe, just individual Axis members.
Nato took over operations in Afghanistan not long after the initial invasion.
It really doesnt help his case that one of the few (perhaps the only?) time that NATO article 5 was triggered was during 9/11 and re:afghanistan (which again its p lol)
Not really, the government of Afghanistan didn’t attack the USA, that was bin Laden and the Afghans offered to hand him over via a third party nation, he was eventually found (according to their own account) in Pakistan and not Afghanistan. And that’s not even getting into the weeds of how the cia financed at least two of the highjackers, norad failed to intercept planed that deviated from their flight paths or the project for a new amerikkkan century.
oh, most definitely, but G.W. Bush did trigger article 5 and there were meetings about it. They even concluded that indeed a foreign enemy had attacked sovereign soil of the U.S.
Straight from the horse’s mouth: https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_110496.htm
Whether that was torturing reality for the sake of empire building or not well that’s a separate Q