• GodlessCommie@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    5 days ago

    I’m out there every single weekend, either helping feed the homeless, providing mutual aid, or some type of community building. I know how this shit works, and what doesn’t work. I’m probably doing more than any of the other shitlibs attending these things. IF they cared they would have been demonstrating during the blue fascists terms too, but all they know is performative politics.

    • Lightor@lemmy.world
      2·
      5 days ago

      Only the weekends huh? So only one or two days at a time? I heard one guy say that until people start taking protest seriously nothing will change. A single day or two will do nothing to sway them. It needs to be a prolonged event that hurts them. Wait, wasn’t that you? The guy not practicing what he preaches? Looks like I nailed it.

      And yes, let’s cap it all off by saying how you’re better than everyone else, and everyone else is just performative. Jesus, I’ve never seen someone hurt a cause they support so handedly through hypocrisy and ego. Impressive.

      • GodlessCommie@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        5 days ago

        Trying to conflate community aid with protest? One helps the community, the other fights the reasons community aid is necessary. Leave these issues to the actual people that know what they are doing, and stay the fuck out of our way.

        • Lightor@lemmy.world
          2·
          5 days ago

          That’s a lot of words to deflect from the fact that you’re not willing to do what you’re asking others to do. Sit back down, no one needs you telling the world how great you are while you demand from others what you won’t do yourself. When was the last time you protested for days, putting something on the line, like you’re judging others for not doing? Or have you been too busy patting yourself on the back about how you do more than any other lib.

          • GodlessCommie@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            5 days ago

            Still trying to conflate mutual aid with protest. Since you appear to have no idea what protest entails, I doubt you can tell the difference between mutual aid and protest. Liberals are one of the direct causes of why nothing can ever get better. We have to fight both the state and liberals.

            • Lightor@lemmy.world
              1·
              4 days ago

              Cool, deflecting again. I don’t care about the difference, it means nothing. It’s something you’re bringing up to deflect from the core point: you said people need to protest for extended periods, till it hurts. Have you done that, or are you being an absolute hypocrite, it’s any easy question but you keep dodging it for some reason. I wonder why…

              I mean you could be organizing the next protest instead of messing around on Lemmy. But here you are, preaching and virtue signalling while refusing to answer if you’ve done what you’re asking of others.

              Edit: and it looks like he never answered. Another person demanding things from others that will cause suffering, but you’re unwilling to do it yourself. But you’ll mock what they do as not good enough. Crazy…

              • stickly@lemmy.world
                1·
                4 days ago

                I’d just like to step in here and remind the people at home that appeals to hypocrisy are a logical fallacy. Just because someone isn’t doing what they say should be done doesn’t mean they’re wrong.

                Thanks, I’ll hang up and listen.

                Edit: Forgot to add one thing. This conversation is about collective action, a particularly silly place to judge the actions of a single individual

                • Lightor@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  4 days ago

                  No, it doesn’t mean they’re wrong, but asking someone to suffer for your benefit while you refuse to suffer is self centered and shows a lack of conviction. If you take it a step further and start demanding it, like some are, you start to look like what you’re fighting against.

                  “Everyone needs to protest, it won’t stop until they feel it! Not me, I mean I’m not going to do that, but people need to. Even if it hurts them and theirs! I’ll be waiting.”

                  Thanks for listening I guess.

                  Edit for your edit: it is about collective action. Action he is demanding that can cause great suffering to those who perform it, so that he can benefit from that action. Action, that while demanding it, he refuses to take part in. This is about people demanding others to suffer for their benefit.