Summary

The SAVE Act, reintroduced by Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX), would require proof of U.S. citizenship to register to vote, relying on documents like birth certificates and passports.

Critics argue it could disenfranchise millions, particularly married women whose names no longer match their birth certificates. The bill does not recognize marriage certificates as valid proof of identity.

Supporters say it protects election integrity, while opponents highlight the minimal occurrence of noncitizen voting.

With Republican control of Congress and the White House, the bill is likely to pass.

  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
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    I’m totally fine with my family having a random composition of names. It would be awesome to come up with a new last name for the kids for example. If we need me, just let me know…

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    So if this passes then the next bill will be to force all women that marry to change their last name to reflect their husbands last name. This, of course will be part of a larger bill to outlaw gay marriage.

    And then when women decide to protest this by not getting married there will be an economic bill that will be passed that states unmarried women will be taxed at a higher rate - and they will use the excuse that we need to shore up the “traditional family” to fight against all this “God-less liberal brainwashing”.

    • Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org
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      And then when women decide to protest this by not getting married there will be an economic bill that will be passed that states unmarried women will be taxed at a higher rate - and they will use the excuse that we need to shore up the “traditional family” to fight against all this “God-less liberal brainwashing”.

      Historically, when countries do this kind of thing it’s more often targeted at unmarried men. The English have done it, the Ottomans did, even ancient Rome did at one point (though Rome taxed both men and women for being celibate or childless, but men were subject to the tax for a wider span of ages). A bunch more places around the world have at various times either tax unmarried and/or childless men or flirted with the idea - it’s a shockingly long list. Most of them didn’t do the same to unmarried women, or if they did the tax applied to women for fewer years or was higher for men. Most of those have been dead for decades at this point, in large part because they’re not effective at getting people to breed.

      In the US, Missouri briefly taxed unmarried men, before replacing it with a poll tax the next year. Montana did as well, though it got struck down by their courts (not because of gender inequality but because of phrasing in the state constitution that was interpreted to prohibit that kind of tax). New York, Connecticut, Wyoming, New Jersey, Delaware, Georgia, Minnesota, and California all flirted with the idea of taxing bachelors but never passed it. Michigan proposed a bachelor tax 9 different times but never managed to pass it.

      I don’t know of any cases where unmarried or childless women were subject to a punitive tax but unmarried or childless men weren’t (or even cases where it was seriously proposed), barring a few cases where the age ranges were different, typically with the tax applying to women starting at an earlier starting age but for men to a later final age (for example women 20-50 vs men 25-60 by the Romans, or women 20-45 vs men 25-50 by the Soviets). I’d be curious when, how often or to what extent that has ever happened.

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        Thanks for that write up. I had no clue that these taxes existed. Was the purpose of taxing unmarried men more due to the fact that historically men were the ones earning a living while women were more unpaid labor (house wives)? Or was it that women historically haven’t had much of a say in who they will marry?

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    My wife didn’t change her last name when we married. All the inconveniences of that have been so minor for us, not an issue.

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      “It doesn’t affect me so it’s not an issue :D”

      Hey guess what, it affects millions of people, including people you know. Fuck outta here with that “got mine” bullshit

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    This would also disenfranchise basically every trans person in the country, which isn’t a bug, it’s a feature. Last I heard, trans people were having trouble getting any passport under the new administration.

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    While you’re being blatant about the hate, how about we give married men 3/5ths an extra vote at the same time?

    • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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      It’s actually worse than the 3/5 as I understand, since that was about slaveholder states getting 3/5 of their slave population count towards the census.

      Disenfranchised women will count towards the census completely.

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    23 hours ago

    If my voting rights were stripped by this law, I would know what to do, and who to do it to. I wouldn’t become a secondary citizen (at best), or nothing but a (wage/birthing) slave.

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    I sure hope Obama does a good job explaining the “unintended” consequences of this so the Republicans who vote for it won’t blame him for letting them pass it.