I know the CEO dug himself a pretty deep hole recently.

I had been meaning to switch all the services I currently use over to proton - but his remarks gave me pause.

Is it still worth considering?

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    I’m tired but:

    • you’d need to compare the checksums of their web-based cryptography at every login,
    • you could use their bridge but you’d need to give your OpenPGP passphrase to change your settings, for no reason
    • they have the CIA at their administration council,
    • they have an history of unethical behavior toward Twitter survivors,
    • they have an history of spreading conspiracy theories,
    • they have an history of contacting hosting providers asking them to remove blog posts,
    • they didn’t share the Lavabit fundraiser so they could get quietly issued a US National Security Letter (overriding the First Amendment and preventing Ladar from appealing),
    • they can access to your entire mailbox anyway, not just to the email contents,
    • this has enabled the arrest of Social and Climatic Justice activists, they replied they couldn’t resist a Swiss court order (so that’s not their fault I guess, the tech is just bad)…

    Why would you trust them for your opsec, and why would you enable them further?

    Alternatives include Disroot, Nubo, and Zaclys.

    #Proton #ProtonMail

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      For being tired this outlined a lot of great points and good alternatives. Nubo has my eye and I’m going to look into starting the process with them.

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        Nubo sounds good. However, I’m closer and closer to buying a mini PC and simply self-gosting Nextcloud. I feel that is the only way to be really sure I own my data and not get disillusioned/disappointed in some way by some of these companies.

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          Yeah, been strongly considering that recently as well but I have a lot to learn.

          I really want to have a custom domain, murena seems to have everything that I’m looking for, if I wanted to have a custom domain still I’d have to self host.

          I’ve heard that self hosting can lead to a bunch of email getting snagged in spam filters. In regards to self-hostijg I’m definitly in the unconscious ignorance (I don’t know what I don’t know) phase of it.

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            I have a custom domain added to Tuta. Works fine for the last 2 years. If something goes haywire at any point, ⚓ up and I’m gone.

            I’m interested in self hosting a couple of services, Immich, Navidrome, Nextcloud, but email ain’t one of them. Personal one I use mostly for registrations and shopping confirmations