ID: ally @missmayn posted: “the democrats were more energized and organized against campus protests than the current authoritarian takeover.”

      • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Who’s the democrat? The person who arrested them, or the state attorney? I believe their state attorney is a Democrat, and that’s where it would normally come from, not a cop. Not sure who ordered it though

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          The states attourney filed the charges. She is also an adjunct law professor at the U of I as is Rabbi Dovid Tiechtel of Illini Chabad who claimed in the article below that he was heavily involved with descions being made during the protests. He has “Isreal” listed as a hobby on the Chibad website. I wouldn’t be surprised if he applied political pressure on behalf of Isreal. https://www.wcia.com/news/breaking-news/pro-palestinian-protestors-rally-again-at-uiuc/

          The U of I chanselor announced his resignation back in November.

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            So those with ownership of the property or powers to speak in their stead called the police to perform an investigation into a protest on campus and issues statements against them and the investigation was brought to presumably the state attorney we mentioned. I know of no students who were prosecuted by the state for a long term, do you? I know the university’s themselves suspended students and professors, threw people from dorms and treated peope most unfairly.

            For the most part the attorney sentenced them to a 4 hour holding and release. Note that is shorter than any holding time I have ever recieved, standardly 8-12 hrs before a bond is set.

            All punishments seem to be from the schools not the Legislative/Judicial branch. Thus meaning unless you can show otherwise, this “Democrat” appears to have given the most lenient sentences possible

            (Granted that is for most, anyone who got involved in violence I’m sure she referred to the courts, so they could depict what happened)

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              They were charged with a class 4 criminal felony by the county prosecuter, Julia Reitz. Being arrested and released isn’t a punishment. Illinois has cashless bond. They weren’t arrested at the protest, they were indighted by a grand jury. A conviction means that you are facing a 1-3 year prison sentence and you’ll never be able to vote, own guns, or get many types of jobs and nobody will hire you anyway. They’re trying to fuck up this girls whole life because she said Isreal is bad.

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                The voting thing is untrue I believe, you can vote with a felony once out of incarceration. Also if sounds like a jury decided that by your words. So it was again not a singular person.

                So that person will be eligible to vote whether found guilty or innocent by a jury in the 2026 elections. Owning a gun on the other hand, if found guilty, no, I don’t believe they can in Illinois. I guess we’ll find out what the jury decides. Do you know when the case is happening?

                (I agree it is all ridiculous)

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                  An indightment just means that there is probable cause to charge the person, it’s not a descision on whether they are guilty or not. The process is done in secret, so there is no defence for the person being charged. It’s just a way to issue an arrest warrant. They do it that way in order to prevent people from asking for a “show cause” hearing which would allow them to personally defend against the whole thing. D It’s a dirty trick.

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      Protests have been ongoing. Just off camera, mostly. Some students got suspended from the schools, other schools have been banning groups from organizing over pro-palestinian issues.

      I mean, the Israel lobby won.

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        Just off camera

        This is the important part. Corporate propaganda outlets will not report on burgeoning political movements that threaten the status quo, unless they are absolutely forced to, and only then to deride and ridicule them in order to discourage their growth.

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          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Revolution_Will_Not_Be_Televised

          The revolution will not be right back after a message about a white tornado, white lightning, or white people

          You will not have to worry about a dove in your bedroom, the tiger in your tank, or the giant in your toilet bowl

          The revolution will not go better with Coke

          The revolution will not fight germs that may cause bad breath

          The revolution will put you in the driver’s seat

          The revolution will not be televised

          Will not be televised

          Will not be televised

          Will not be televised

          The revolution will be no re-run, brothers

          The revolution will be live

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        Oh you just copy paste this like a bot, okay. You know we should stop pressuring our party leaders to do anything we want because they don’t represent us afterall right?

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            I’m so glad to hear from someone that did actual research about this! Would you mind sharing some of the sources that support your claim about protesters only caring about “feeling morally superior”? I can’t find anything about this, but it sounds like you can help. Was there a study?

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            You should take some of the energy you use for crying

            I dont copy paste shit everywhere :p