• Ulrich@feddit.org
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    12 hours ago

    If “doing something about it” means disadvantaging a group of people based on their race or ethnicity, that is the very definition of racism, what are you talking about?

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      11 hours ago

      You should really ask yourself why you see raising up one group as necessarily lowering another. One doesn’t follow from the other.

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        11 hours ago

        I can ask myself all day but the answer will be the same. Instead, why don’t you tell me how that works?

        There is a finite amount of positions at any job (unless you’re hiring someone to do a made-up job to score points, which would be the textbook definition of “diversity hire”). You can choose to fill those positions with the most qualified applicant, or you can choose to hire one of a specific race. You can’t logically do both.

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          9 hours ago

          That’s an entirely different conversation, and a strawman to boot. You clearly aren’t interested in actually discussing this. I can show you study after study proving that a bias exists against equally skilled applicants with an “ethnic sounding” name, but why bother, you’re not serious and I’m done engaging with you.

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            9 hours ago

            That’s an entirely different conversation

            It is a different conversation from the one you want to have. It is the conversation I was having before you showed up and tried to derail it with a strawman.

            I can show you study after study proving that a bias exists

            I agree and acknowledge that that bias exists. That bias has no bearing on whether or not discrimination based on race (regardless of what race) is racism.