You dismiss 3/4 of the picture in order to make a point based on only 1/4 of the information
That’s exactly what you’re doing. Ignoring how much worse the situation is if you abstain from voting because you’re focused on the lesser evil. Even on Gaza Trump said he wants to “clean it all out”. Even on this issue the greater evil is worse. Stop pretending there was anything noble about letting that monster have power again. The system doesn’t work so they let an even worse one take over and people who abstained or protest voted bear some of that responsibility for the consequences
I don’t frame questions in terms of lesser/greater evil. I actually don’t need religious concepts at all to understand this situation, all I have to do is listen to people and remember what came before.
You’re so divorced from reality that there are no actual people who you are condemning, you’re just mad at some strawman constructed by the party that humiliated itself, for it was the democrats failures that lost. You’re buying into a ridiculous narrative that deflects all crit away from the democrats and puts it in some strawmen. It’s like conservatives with their woke washing of all politics, or bad faith liberals and “tankie”.
And to be clear, I don’t agree with people who abstained to vote, I did not abstain to vote. and I didn’t encourage anyone to abstain. I am very politically active and fundamentally agree with your logic. However…
What I despise is the scapegoating and strawmanning that is just endlessly regurgitated on this site.
I actually don’t need religious concepts at all to understand this situation
You think good and evil are religious concepts? That’s a new one. And I’m the one divorced from reality lol. People who abstained choose to do nothing about the rise of fascism. I do not blame them as much as someone actively supporting it but they absolutely share the blame for doing nothing to stop it and it’s absurd to give them a pass as we suffer the consequences of their decision
And Trump is the lesser evil according to maga. Your point is we should just do the opposite of what liberals think? That’s the entire philosophy of Republicans so that adds up
The lesser evil is not good, it’s the less evil option.
Trump, to maga, is a good option. If there were a hundred candidates, they would pick Trump.
Biden, to no one, is a good option. If there were a hundred equal candidates, no sane person would pick Biden. He is evil. He is a ridiculously racist, ridiculously right wing, ridiculously evil person. He spent his career harming the working class and reducing your rights.
Only in a captured system where you only have two options would anyone ever consider voting for Biden, and only if his opponent is worse. He would be the lesser evil.
Drinking a bottle of gasoline is less bad than drinking a gallon, but it’s not good. And it’s never your only option no matter how thirsty you are.
I hope writing at a second grade level has cleared up your ignorance and misunderstanding.
To your last point, there’s always more than two choices. Always. In every system of governance. You didn’t find any other option tasteful, because out of all of them you still wanted evil — you just wanted less.
The lesser evil is not good, it’s the less evil option
When did I ever make that claim? Disagreeing with you does not make someone a troll that’s a pathetic fallacy grow up. A “good” option is less evil than an evil option how are we even arguing this right now?
The good option for magas is Trump, their less evil option is Biden, the evil option would have been a competent third party or a protest or literally anything but voting.
The good option for people that aren’t evil was doing anything to stop either Harris or Trump from taking office. Anything at all. Treason is the better option than voting for either destruction of the US people.
The fact you don’t understand that nothing in life is binary is how were arguing this right now. Good is not the lesser evil, it is good. The lesser evil is still just evil.
You seem to think there was a third candidate that could have won the election. There were two. Binary means two possible values. Yes this was binary and not voting helped one of the two. Things in life absolutely can be binary have you ever flipped a coin? That’s an absolutely absurd claim to make. You’re very much living in a different reality
That’s exactly what you’re doing. Ignoring how much worse the situation is if you abstain from voting because you’re focused on the lesser evil. Even on Gaza Trump said he wants to “clean it all out”. Even on this issue the greater evil is worse. Stop pretending there was anything noble about letting that monster have power again. The system doesn’t work so they let an even worse one take over and people who abstained or protest voted bear some of that responsibility for the consequences
I don’t frame questions in terms of lesser/greater evil. I actually don’t need religious concepts at all to understand this situation, all I have to do is listen to people and remember what came before.
You’re so divorced from reality that there are no actual people who you are condemning, you’re just mad at some strawman constructed by the party that humiliated itself, for it was the democrats failures that lost. You’re buying into a ridiculous narrative that deflects all crit away from the democrats and puts it in some strawmen. It’s like conservatives with their woke washing of all politics, or bad faith liberals and “tankie”.
And to be clear, I don’t agree with people who abstained to vote, I did not abstain to vote. and I didn’t encourage anyone to abstain. I am very politically active and fundamentally agree with your logic. However…
What I despise is the scapegoating and strawmanning that is just endlessly regurgitated on this site.
You think good and evil are religious concepts? That’s a new one. And I’m the one divorced from reality lol. People who abstained choose to do nothing about the rise of fascism. I do not blame them as much as someone actively supporting it but they absolutely share the blame for doing nothing to stop it and it’s absurd to give them a pass as we suffer the consequences of their decision
Hitler was appointed as the lesser evil according to the liberal government that appointed him.
Lesser evilism is the most evil option in all scenarios.
And Trump is the lesser evil according to maga. Your point is we should just do the opposite of what liberals think? That’s the entire philosophy of Republicans so that adds up
Greater evilism is as dumb as it sounds
Trump is the ideal leader according to maga, not a lesser evil.
If you’re going to troll, at least get the basics right, lib
The choice also has never been binary.
You think maga thinks Trump is more evil than Biden? Who’s trolling? Pointing out all the bs in your points is not trolling.
Give me a third choice, that’s what we both want. We did not have that, how do you not get that? Not voting helped Trump
No, troll.
The lesser evil is not good, it’s the less evil option.
Trump, to maga, is a good option. If there were a hundred candidates, they would pick Trump.
Biden, to no one, is a good option. If there were a hundred equal candidates, no sane person would pick Biden. He is evil. He is a ridiculously racist, ridiculously right wing, ridiculously evil person. He spent his career harming the working class and reducing your rights.
Only in a captured system where you only have two options would anyone ever consider voting for Biden, and only if his opponent is worse. He would be the lesser evil.
Drinking a bottle of gasoline is less bad than drinking a gallon, but it’s not good. And it’s never your only option no matter how thirsty you are.
I hope writing at a second grade level has cleared up your ignorance and misunderstanding.
To your last point, there’s always more than two choices. Always. In every system of governance. You didn’t find any other option tasteful, because out of all of them you still wanted evil — you just wanted less.
When did I ever make that claim? Disagreeing with you does not make someone a troll that’s a pathetic fallacy grow up. A “good” option is less evil than an evil option how are we even arguing this right now?
Were arguing this point because you’re objectively wrong.
The lesser evil is not good, it’s evil. Good is not less evil than evil, it’s not evil.
It’s not a spectrum. Its a different option. Beef is not less poultry than turkey, it is beef.
You’re pretending good and evil isn’t a spectrum and calling it objective. I think we’re done here.
You just repeated the claim in this comment.
The good option for magas is Trump, their less evil option is Biden, the evil option would have been a competent third party or a protest or literally anything but voting.
The good option for people that aren’t evil was doing anything to stop either Harris or Trump from taking office. Anything at all. Treason is the better option than voting for either destruction of the US people.
The fact you don’t understand that nothing in life is binary is how were arguing this right now. Good is not the lesser evil, it is good. The lesser evil is still just evil.
You seem to think there was a third candidate that could have won the election. There were two. Binary means two possible values. Yes this was binary and not voting helped one of the two. Things in life absolutely can be binary have you ever flipped a coin? That’s an absolutely absurd claim to make. You’re very much living in a different reality