• TooManyFoods@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    1 day ago

    I’m pretty sure you’re already allowed a lawyer. Repeating you can have a lawyer twice doesn’t add anything, unless you can show their right to a lawyer was somehow being bypassed. Do we have cases of that?

    • DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      24 hours ago

      Kinda. You only have a recognized right to a lawyer in criminal proceedings.

      This right was bypassed by forcing schools to have separate hearing regarding being expelled where you not only did not have a right to a lawyer, but often not even the right to confront witnesses or examine evidence.

      So the right to a fair trial was bypassed by creating a new tribunal that could not send you to prison (therefore not triggering constitutional protections), but still completely fuck up your life since now you are expelled from your school, unable to get into another one and still probably settled with student loans.

      • TooManyFoods@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        15 hours ago

        Was there a case where someone tried to bring in a lawyer to one of those hearings and was turned away? At that point though, I’d expect it to go straight to litigation, so I’d say were they turned away and immediately expelled. I’d almost expect the hearing to end and lawsuits to start.