ID: WookieeMark @EvilGenXer posted:

"OK so look, Capitalism is right wing.

Period.

If you are pro-capitalism, you are Right Wing.

There is no pro-capitalist Left. That’s a polite fiction in the US that no one can afford any longer as the ecosystem is actually collapsing around us."

  • Spaniard@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    1 day ago

    I agree, politics aren’t a line where some are in the right, some in the left and the center is some kind of mythological beast (if they are we are screwed, but they aren’t)

    Politics are complicated, politicians are simple. Capitalism isn’t an ideology it’s an economic system, it’s as good or as bad as the mechanisms put in place to govern/control/rule it. It’s supposed to be free but it can’t be because no one can’t trust corporations, it’s also not supposed to be controlled by the State but when they inject money in it that’s what they are doing.

    Capitalism can work in any kind of environment, and fail too.

    Personally I believe democracy is failing, technofeudalism is coming in hard for it. In my country we replaced nobility with politicians and they are the caste, the president is the King, if you defy the party stand you are kicked out, they claim to be socialdemocrats but all the social aspects are worse than 5, 10, and 20 years ago and although keynesian economics plays a part on the reason I believe it’s democracy’s fault.

    • nyamlae@lemmy.world
      6·
      24 hours ago

      Capitalism isn’t an ideology it’s an economic system

      Well, it’s both. All economic systems are ideologies with specific values and concerns.

      it’s as good or as bad as the mechanisms put in place to govern/control/rule it

      This implies that economic systems can’t be good or bad in themselves. But every implementation of capitalism (or any other economic system) is going to reflect that system’s values, and those values can be judged to be good or bad. So I think it’s reasonable to label different economic systems as “good” or “bad”, so long as you precisely define the system and its values before judging it.

      • Spaniard@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        3 hours ago

        This implies that economic systems can’t be good or bad in themselves.

        That’s right, it’s how we use it, well, to be honest I believe there are only two economic systems and human greed won’t allow the second one to succeed so, right now, there is only one and it’s as good as our leaders make it to be (which is pretty terrible, certainly worse than when my parents had my age)

        And yes, even an absolute monarchy with a fair and just king could be good.

        And I say this while I understand the current capitalism model is broken, the whole economy is based on lies, I hate banks and I a firm believer of the Christian concept of “money lending with interests is a sin”