Summary
Hundreds of subreddits are debating banning links to X.com (formerly Twitter) following Elon Musk’s Nazi salute at a Trump rally.
Dozens of subreddit moderators have already implemented bans, while others are holding votes among their communities.
The bans span political, regional, and topical subreddits, including r/NewJersey, r/londonOntario, and r/christianity, with some highlighting Musk’s gesture alongside neo-Nazi imagery.
This move reflects growing backlash against Musk and his platform over perceived alignment with extremist symbolism.
Lemmy should do the same.
Honestly the fact how bad user experience X is for unregistered users should be reason enough to ban links to X.
The experience for unregistered users on Reddit is almost as bad as twitter, I don’t think Reddit cares about that.
Yeah, especially on mobile where they keep bugging people to install their app even if you’ve logged in. Sometimes they even block you from viewing certain communities on mobile if you’re not using their app but if you’ve desktop site enabled from browser settings.
Yeaaa almost everything good requires logging in on reddit
What a coincidence, I’ve been banning all links to reddit. This is working out great.
Maybe they will leave oligarch owned social media next.
I mean I doubt it. After all, the next-best thing is Lemmy.
Are any Lemmy instances banning x links? I haven’t heard of it, but would be in favor of it.
We’re currently conducting a vote on dbzer0 for it via a pinned post.
Last I checked the count was overwhelmingly for banning links to X.
LMAO well said. It sucks that we really don’t have a decent alternative to reddit. I miss my niche subs.
Digg should have never released V4. It was reddit’s only competition, but now it’s a soulless, corporate curated media platform. You can’t even comment anymore.
Reddit’s response to this will reveal where Reddit likely falls on the Spectrum of Evil. They’re a privately-held company, so any possible protection money they may have paid to the Nazis won’t be visible like Meta’s and such until the FEC report is (likely never) released in 3 months.
Didn’t they recently go public? They’re traded as RDDT on the New York Stock Exchange.
Yes, they went public last year. And despite all the gloating on lemmy about a drop in share price right after the ipo, it’s up 500% since then.
Edit: 300%
We’re spending so much media attention on this Nazi salute that I’m wondering if it may have been the intent all along - tie up media coverage while the Trump administration pushes harmful legislation through under the radar.
Well, trump is doing some weird old chap shit… musk did a master move (relative to it’s intelect)
That is how i read the situation
The thing is, Trump’s harmful policies are in fact Nazi policies. We need to be spending more attention on the fact that there are now Nazis in the White House.
What are we going to do. Ignore the Nazi in the room?
Boycotting Twitter is a good idea for many reasons. However this kind of blanket link ban will lead to more informational segregation quickly. This has already happened in many ways since the beginning of the war on Ukraine. Linking to Telegram or any Russian website is no longer allowed in many forums, e. g. Reddit. That has made finding original sources and verifying information much more difficult.
Take links to videos for example. Reddit is full of videos copied from YouTube, Telegram, TikTok, etc. without attributing the original source. The World Wide Web was supposed to link information together into a network, where you can follow up on origins snd details. Nowadays it has turned into a series of copy & paste silos, enabling the most extreme echo chambers.
I think segregation is the long term plan.
Divide and conquer.
Knowledge is power; Wikipedia is next on the hit list.
I doubt there’s a plan behind this.
Social media wasn’t the primary driver behind the Arab spring. The economic issues were the trigger. People couldn’t afford to buy food. Lack of food will topple any government. Media control only gets one so far.
On the Internet the dominant websites can change quickly. Being banned from Twitter enabled Trump‘s Truth Social. Buying Twitter gave Elon Musk a giant soap box. However new soapboxes are constructed all the time and some succeed.
The changes in attitudes towards social media websites, caused in this instance by Elon Musk are a great way for those in power to suppress another Arab Spring type event in the future.
The change in attitude is the consequence, not the cause. The best way for those in power to suppress another Arab Spring type event is a change in ownership of a massively influential social media platform where the richest man can take over completely to censor and control the narrative and oh, whoops… that already happened.
First they banned in person socializing/communication, next will be internet communication/socializing
First they banned in person socializing/communication
They did?
Banned is a bit of hyperbole. But it’s clear as day that most of the third places have evaporated over the years. You can blame some of it on economics, but there are prominent right wingers who have talked about changing the language so average Americans from different political systems aren’t able to have a civil conversations anymore, and the need to shut down third places that serve as a melting pot for ideas.
When I was a child, I distinctly remember many occasions where family or friends would meet and discuss policy… not politicians, actual policy in a civil way. Now those discussions don’t happen, try to talk to a Conservative and see how long you can talk about policy before they bring up Trump, Pelosi or some other figure head.
And they’ll eventually not do it considering they are still debating about it. Just do it.
Some have already banned, some are in the process of voting.
So that’s what it takes before people think of leaving twitter.
They have concepts of leaving, but addiction is a bitch. Most will stay.
People have been leaving Twitter in waves for years. This is just another one.
Garbage blocking garbage. Fuck Reddit
Removed by mod
11 year old account banned for saying that if there was a revolution the rich wouldn’t have the resources to protect themselves
No previous infractions
Removed by mod
Never looked back.
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Have had twitter blocked in my dns server for ages. All the big social media companies. Totally worth it.
I’ve banned new Teslas from going before me at stop signs, passing me on the freeway, and not being cut off by me within inches in the left lane at any opportunity I can take.
Edit: was really expecting greater than zero downvotes for the last sentence. Thanks for letting me talk shit and knowing I’m not trying to endanger any safety for real
I choose to believe this is brilliant trolling
I can’t believe it’s taken this long. I get disappointed when microblogmeme jpegs don’t have 2 @ symbols in them.
I wish I could stop using WhatsApp but that’s where all the people without phone plans are. I wish I could stop using Telegram but that’s where all the drug dealers are. I wish Reddit would ban X links, but that’s where all the sassy hot takes are.
You can of course, you’re just chosing to support zuck, musk and durov because it’s slightly inconvenient for you not to
Of those three, telegram isn’t as bad though. They’re insecure and share data with law enforcement etc, but they’re not as active and enthusiastic collaborators with Trump
My point is the network effect. That’s where people are and I have no power to change that, so that is where I must sometimes be. If it was up to me, things would be wonderful and open source. But I sometimes have to deal with — ugh… humans.
It is up to you though. I get that you can make the choice that supporting zuck and musk is an OK price to pay to not have to do a little more work or be the annoying person saying “I only have Signal” but it is very much your choice. You could choose differently, if your priorities were different
India alone is about 2 billion people who all use WhatsApp. I cannot change the world. I hear you and would love for us all to switch to federated or — at least — decentralized things, or whatever. I will advocate for it, but like banks and shit are using WhatsApp. It is legitimized here even more than MMS. I can’t stop it. And yes, I have made the choice to communicate with humans rather than using Signal.
I did that for a while. The thing that happened was that I got left out of stuff, because people didn’t always think of informing me separately, when it was already discussed in the already existing groups. Sometimes they would inform me after all the planning was done what the plans were, sometimes I got a last minute info or no info at all. So the choice was between a significant loss in my social life and using the same service as everyone else in my social circles.
Some of us value our social connections more I guess? I still use WhatsApp and I have no control over those around me to use otherwise. As already stated it’s the network effect. The vast majority of people do not care about Telegram or Signal.
insecure and share data with law enforcement
[citation needed]
If Telegram receives a valid order from the relevant judicial authorities that confirms you’re a suspect in a case involving criminal activities that violate the Telegram Terms of Service, we will perform a legal analysis of the request and may disclose your IP address and phone number to the relevant authorities.
Doesn’t seem unreasonable to me. And more importantly doesn’t seem insecure to me.
The insecure bit is that they don’t e2e-encrypt by default, so they have access to the data. In theory someone could hack telegram’s servers and steal it. In theory someone might have done that already.
Signal in contrast couldn’t really give your data away, without hiding a backdoor in the client or encryption, which someone could then find.
I thought telegram were now also sharing message content with law enforcement, but it seems they claim to only share IP address and phone numbers. We have no way of verifying that, but it’s still better than I remembered.
It might or might not matter for you of course.
I don’t like the guy either way, but I still can’t believe this is actually real. Are there any videos that show unequivocally that this is a salute and not just a meme made out of a poorly timed photo? All I’ve seen so far are just still shots, which leads me to suspect there’s a spin on this.
Edit: I should also add I avoid X as much as possible anyway.
That’s just laziness on your part. It’s VERY easy to find video clips of the two times he did it.
Holy shit
