• MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
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    They are fascists. They are not nazis. Nazis ate WWII era German fascists that attempted to create the ubermensch and create a 1000 year reich.

    Nazis are a different flavor of fascism

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        Which is common among fascists but if they aren’t looking for the 1000 year reich, the genocide of the underclass, and the creation of the master race they are not Nazis.

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          Y’all are down voting this but it’s correct. What we have is Sparkling Fascism.

          Dumbasses can’t pronounce fascism though, so most people stick to calling them Nazis. Not the best shorthand but it is what it is.

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          Pretty clear to me that they do want this in a way. Leaving the poor to die and suffer strikes me as very “genocide of the underclass”

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      Fascism is like cancer of humanity, it has been on remission for a while and now its starting to come back possibly even worse because it couldn’t be eradicated when weakened.

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        It always holds appeal for some especially people born into wealth that are personally insecure. I suspect that’s why American schools dont really teach kids about the fundamentals of fascist philosophy.

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          Fate and direction of humanity might depend on how well americans resist now. america has way too much military power and nukes.

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          They don’t teach them this because it would lead them to believe we have been a fascist country since the creation of the military industrial complex. That is not exactly what we want our students learning.

          Much like we whitewash all of history to make ourselves out to be the good guys and not the genocidal death cult maniacs we are.

          It is not like we have not been warned for several decades now what has been happening.

          https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/president-dwight-d-eisenhowers-farewell-address

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            The Military Industrial Congressional complex (Congress was removed from the speech before Ike gave it) was created after fascism was defeated in Europe. I would suggest we had people attempting to instill it since the 1900s but they only just got through.

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              Indeed there have been instances of business trying to do this decades before his speech.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

              As I alluded to we have always been flirting or in recent times outright embracing fascism.

              When you realize we were a country founded by the wealthy for the wealthy you begin to understand why we have these issues.

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      If they aren’t Nazis, why are they running the same playbook Nazis did at the beginning and PERFORMING NAZI SALUTES WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL SEAL IN FRONT OF THEM AT PRESIDENTIAL INAUGURATIONS?

      If they don’t want to be Nazis, just regular fascists, maybe they shouldn’t use Nazi salutes.

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          I’m going to be clear here. No one cares that you know some historical detail that, in the end, is irrelevant.

          Due to historical events within living memory Americans view Naziism and Fascism interchangeably. So a sieg heil is a Nazi thing to Americans. So when we see someone performing a sieg heil, they are associated with Nazis.

          No one cares if someone technically did the action with their arm before Nazis. No one cares if the Swastika was technically used by various religions and cultures before the Nazis co-opted it. That’s not what it means to contemporary Americans.

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            This isn’t a historical detail. This is philosophy.

            Americans use liberal incorrectly and as a result most have no clue what the philosophy that defined the nation until a few were s ago actually is.

            There are consequences to not understanding what these things mean and right now America is dealing with the consequences of people who have no idea what fascism is. This is due to that ignorance you are celebrating.

            It does not matter what contemporary Ameticans think. They are a minority of English speakers.