• MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    They are fascists. They are not nazis. Nazis ate WWII era German fascists that attempted to create the ubermensch and create a 1000 year reich.

    Nazis are a different flavor of fascism

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      If they aren’t Nazis, why are they running the same playbook Nazis did at the beginning and PERFORMING NAZI SALUTES WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL SEAL IN FRONT OF THEM AT PRESIDENTIAL INAUGURATIONS?

      If they don’t want to be Nazis, just regular fascists, maybe they shouldn’t use Nazi salutes.

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          I’m going to be clear here. No one cares that you know some historical detail that, in the end, is irrelevant.

          Due to historical events within living memory Americans view Naziism and Fascism interchangeably. So a sieg heil is a Nazi thing to Americans. So when we see someone performing a sieg heil, they are associated with Nazis.

          No one cares if someone technically did the action with their arm before Nazis. No one cares if the Swastika was technically used by various religions and cultures before the Nazis co-opted it. That’s not what it means to contemporary Americans.

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        6 hours ago

        Which is common among fascists but if they aren’t looking for the 1000 year reich, the genocide of the underclass, and the creation of the master race they are not Nazis.

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          Y’all are down voting this but it’s correct. What we have is Sparkling Fascism.

          Dumbasses can’t pronounce fascism though, so most people stick to calling them Nazis. Not the best shorthand but it is what it is.

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      12 hours ago

      Fascism is like cancer of humanity, it has been on remission for a while and now its starting to come back possibly even worse because it couldn’t be eradicated when weakened.

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        It always holds appeal for some especially people born into wealth that are personally insecure. I suspect that’s why American schools dont really teach kids about the fundamentals of fascist philosophy.

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          They don’t teach them this because it would lead them to believe we have been a fascist country since the creation of the military industrial complex. That is not exactly what we want our students learning.

          Much like we whitewash all of history to make ourselves out to be the good guys and not the genocidal death cult maniacs we are.

          It is not like we have not been warned for several decades now what has been happening.

          https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/president-dwight-d-eisenhowers-farewell-address

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            The Military Industrial Congressional complex (Congress was removed from the speech before Ike gave it) was created after fascism was defeated in Europe. I would suggest we had people attempting to instill it since the 1900s but they only just got through.

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          11 hours ago

          Fate and direction of humanity might depend on how well americans resist now. america has way too much military power and nukes.