• starman2112@sh.itjust.works
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    20 hours ago

    I wanted none too, but we both know that wasn’t an option. The choice was between more or less, and you thought “eh, we can’t have none, so either works for me.” You may pretend to have very strong feelings about it, but unless you’re planning on doing something really based within the next couple days, strong feelings are indistinguishable from apathy.

    Democrats were terrified of what Trump *might *do while having their head up their ass with what their party was actually doing.

    Again I ask the question I’ve asked so many times since november: do you actually think the Palestinian people will fare better under Trump than they would have under Harris?

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      10 hours ago

      That question is pure speculation. What we do know is Harris saw them as acceptable deaths to achieve whatever end game Netanyahu wanted.

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        That question is pure speculation

        If we can’t speculate as to how a presidency will go, then I guess you have no problem with trump voters. After all, any questions about his presidency are, at present, pure speculation. For all we know, he could institute full blown communism day one!

        Get real. You know Trump is worse for Palestine, and you’re desperate to convince yourself that you did anything to help.

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          And I bet you thought you did good by voting for a Democrat that is committing genocide while denying that it’s actually occurring

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            Damn sight better than if I’d not voted at all. I’ve already explained to you that the only options were less death and more death, and unlike you, I think more death is worse

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              And I’m sure the families of the dead that you determine are acceptable find great peace in your decision

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                For the record, I don’t find any death acceptable. That’s why I tried to mitigate it as much as possible. You apparently do find more death acceptable, or else you would have voted

                You saw the trolley careening towards the 5 people, and instead of pulling the lever to make it hit the 1, you said “I don’t think anyone should be run over by trolleys.” Like yeah, I agree, but that trolley is still gonna run a bunch of people over, so maybe pull the lever anyway

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                  Liberals and their dumbass trolley problem. What liberals don’t acknowledge is their own party along with Republicans and capitalism have placed those marginalized people on those tracks. They’re those of us that are simply trying to derail the trolley itself and we keep getting punched at by democrats insisting that those marginalized have to stay on the tracks and that the trolley has to keep moving forward. You can’t have both. You could either have human rights and people live or you can have capitalism, Democrats want to defend both

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                    First off, not my party. I don’t know how many more ways there are to say the phrase “voting for someone is not a show of support for them and all of their views.”

                    You don’t like the trolley problem because it’s a very good analogy for the present situation. There were exactly two options, and if you chose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

                    I also want to “derail the trolley.” I want a third party to win. But on the first Tuesday of November, it’s too late to build any new tracks. It’s too late to make a third party viable. If you know that third party isn’t going to win, then continuing to try to build that third track even as the trolley careens past the fork is tacit approval of whatever track it went down. Reach over and pull the damn lever, then get back to building the track.

                    The analogy kind of breaks down when you consider that Donald Trump plans on making it literally impossible for Democrats to win, let alone third parties. Again, unless you plan on doing something incredibly based very soon, you can kiss your third track goodbye. Trump owns the White House, Congress, and the Supreme Court. You think he’s gonna let Stein take the W in 2028?