• Rhoeri@lemmy.world
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      Harris: 75,012,178 votes
      Trump: 77,302,416 votes
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      3 million people voted third party, nearly 90 million people didn’t vote at all- and you blame democrats….
      Source

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        Yes. Democrats alienating the people whose votes they need to win is absolutely a democrat problem.

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          You’re not owed your ass kissed for a vote. That’s not how it works. A candidate has to try to appeal to more than single issue voters. Historicity this has been proven true.

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            No one is asking for their asses to be kissed, we’re asking for a campaign that appeals to enough voters in the party’s own base as opposed to courting voters in the other party’s base.

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              And I said a candidate needs to appeal to a wider audience than to court single issue voters. If those single issue voters understood this, maybe things would have gone differently.

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                Yes, maybe things would have gone differently if they had done anything to appeal to people with a proven track record of voting blue (including opposing genocide in Gaza, which most Democrat voters oppose) rather than trying to appeal to imaginary “moderate Republicans”. I guess we’ll never know!

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        If it wasn’t for Hillary’s pied Piper strategy, Trump never would have been elevated with billions of dollars in free media to become president. If it wasn’t for Kamala Harris embracing right-wing politics and every policy of bidens that the public opposed, we wouldn’t have Trump right now. Democrats are toxic poison and are their own worst enemy

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            The numbers show that the dem’s embrace of right-wing policies (and genocide) were wildly unpopular, the thing we have been screaming for 4 years.

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      Lack of resistance is why Trump won. Democrats are part of that, but the blame hardly lies on them alone.

      Votes do matter, they’re just not enough on their own.

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        It’s hard to claim lack of resistance when the entire party was shifting to the hard right trying to attract that hard right vote. They cozied up to war criminals, cops zionists and the right wing while blowing right-wing dog whistles there was no resistance

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          They were still better on some policies. There would have been space to pressure them in the next four years, build support for a progressive party in local and state elections where they thought they were safe and so on. I can’t imagine any timeline where a Trump victory won’t be objectively worse on many issues. Like I said, the Dems bending over is part of that lack of resistance, but the unwillingness of many voters to vote against Trump, if nothing else, is also a factor.

          How are you consciously standing by idly while watching an out-and-open authoritarian take the lead? How are you seeing Musk of all people crawl up his butt and figure “yeah, I’d rather let him take the reigns”?

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            Not my problem, this is a mess created by liberals for not demanding better of their elected officials or ever holding them accountable for their actions, which is why politics keep getting worse every cycle. As a party they knew they can do whatever they want with no repercussion because voters are trapped in a cycle where they feel there are only 2 options and will come crawling back to them at election time.