As I said in the other comment, cachaça is a type of rum. The definition of rum is “spirit made from sugar cane”, it doesn’t specify if you’re using the molasses or the juice. (IIRC in the French-speaking parts of the Caribbean the rum is also made from the juice, but don’t quote me on that as it might be wrong.)
But even if we disregard that, and pretend that cachaça is something apart from other rums, your advice sounds a bit weird IMO. The recipe is flexible enough to allow any sort of spirit; or even a non-distilled beverage, as the sake that you mentioned. Other types of rum wouldn’t break it.
Rum has a very distinct taste from cachaca, by your logic you could change from coke to fanta in a cuba libre and it would still be a cuba libre somehow. You can use whatever you want on you recipes but if you use rum on a caipirinha, it isnt caipirinha. The original is with cachaca and if anyone wants to try it, they should probably use it but since its hard to find in other countries the alternatives are also common here, but mind you, caipirinha with vodka is called caipiroska and with sake its sakerinha so technically they arent caipirinha either.
For the reason already explained, saying “rum has a very distinct taste from cachaça” is as silly as saying that “fruits have a very distinct taste from apples”, or that “fermented Ives Noir has a very distinct taste from wine”. One includes the other; all tastes of one will be included as tastes of the other, by definition. Like this:
The only reason why people claim that cachaça is “not rum” is nationalists shilling exoticism, a long time ago. They screeched so much when you called a duck “duck” that people started pretending that the duck is “magically” different if it quacks in Vargas’ Reich. That’s it. In the meantime, other cultivated rums kept being called “rum”. (The Australian rum that I mentioned in the Venn diagram is an example. It tastes… well, like cachaça.)
Now, on cachaça and other types of rum (yup) tasting differently: some will be extremely similar, some will be completely unlike each other. A simple rum will taste almost the same as a non-aged Velho Barreiro, even if the rum in question is made of molasses, like a “simple” Bacardi. And both will taste completely alien compared with an Anísio Santiago (one of those expensive cachaças from Salinas), even if we both agree that the later is cachaça (and likely that it’s a poor choice for caipirinha). What affects flavour the most isn’t even if it’s cachaça or another rum, but it’s how it’s handled past distillation, and for drinks you’ll probably pick the simplest one anyway.
Me neither, he is just being pedantic to ‘win’ an argument on the internet, i doubt he ever tasted cachaça, much less a good caipirinha. Se fosse argentino ele teria experimentado pinga então acho que não é.
Já expliquei que cachaça e outros tipos de rum são feitos da mesma coisa, cana. E já expliquei também o impacto no sabor. E mesmo se fossem feitos de coisas diferentes (não são), destilados têm gosto muito mais parecido entre si do que fermentados. Tua comparação é duplamente estúpida.
Não é semântica nem pedantismo. É só um tipo de rum e tem gosto de rum.
Outra coisa: cachaça custa quinze pila aqui, claro que já bebi. Até mencionei cachaça de Salinas e o “véio barrêro”. Ou vocês (incluo o @eestileib@sh.itjust.works ) estão “çupondu” de onde sou? Cuidado, supôr é uma ótima forma de mostrar a todos “sou um imbecil e mereço ser tratado como tal”, é isso que vocês querem das suas vidas?
Engulam o choro e lidem com isso. Especialmente você, já que a verdade ofende teus sentimentozinhos tããão preciosinhos, tãããão bonitinhos, de um troço que caga discurso nacionalista e depois come a própria merda. “NÃÃÃO, É HESPECIAU I DIFERENTE PURQUE DIGO QUE ÇIM!” - você.
Se eu tivesse visto as asneiras de vocês antes, teria respondido antes. Conferi porque tava escrevendo em como lidar como imbecis (sério).
Estaremos aguardando ansiosamente as respostas de Vossas Excelentíssimas Acefalias, embora eu não vá respondê-las. Se quiserem continuar chafurdando em negação, quem sou eu para impedir?
If you have an impaired reading comprehension, or if highlighting that cachaça is a type of rum hurts your precious, so precious nationalistic feelings so much, to the point that you’re desperately gatekeeping booze, you do you. But perhaps you should’ve stayed in Reddit then.
Go make caipirinha with regular rum, not specifically brazillian rum, and enjoy how shit it tastes.
It works better with Bacardi than with Salinas. (I regret the later. Salinas is great, just not good for caipira)
As I said in the other comment, cachaça is a type of rum. The definition of rum is “spirit made from sugar cane”, it doesn’t specify if you’re using the molasses or the juice. (IIRC in the French-speaking parts of the Caribbean the rum is also made from the juice, but don’t quote me on that as it might be wrong.)
But even if we disregard that, and pretend that cachaça is something apart from other rums, your advice sounds a bit weird IMO. The recipe is flexible enough to allow any sort of spirit; or even a non-distilled beverage, as the sake that you mentioned. Other types of rum wouldn’t break it.
Rum has a very distinct taste from cachaca, by your logic you could change from coke to fanta in a cuba libre and it would still be a cuba libre somehow. You can use whatever you want on you recipes but if you use rum on a caipirinha, it isnt caipirinha. The original is with cachaca and if anyone wants to try it, they should probably use it but since its hard to find in other countries the alternatives are also common here, but mind you, caipirinha with vodka is called caipiroska and with sake its sakerinha so technically they arent caipirinha either.
For the reason already explained, saying “rum has a very distinct taste from cachaça” is as silly as saying that “fruits have a very distinct taste from apples”, or that “fermented Ives Noir has a very distinct taste from wine”. One includes the other; all tastes of one will be included as tastes of the other, by definition. Like this:
The only reason why people claim that cachaça is “not rum” is nationalists shilling exoticism, a long time ago. They screeched so much when you called a duck “duck” that people started pretending that the duck is “magically” different if it quacks in Vargas’ Reich. That’s it. In the meantime, other cultivated rums kept being called “rum”. (The Australian rum that I mentioned in the Venn diagram is an example. It tastes… well, like cachaça.)
Now, on cachaça and other types of rum (yup) tasting differently: some will be extremely similar, some will be completely unlike each other. A simple rum will taste almost the same as a non-aged Velho Barreiro, even if the rum in question is made of molasses, like a “simple” Bacardi. And both will taste completely alien compared with an Anísio Santiago (one of those expensive cachaças from Salinas), even if we both agree that the later is cachaça (and likely that it’s a poor choice for caipirinha). What affects flavour the most isn’t even if it’s cachaça or another rum, but it’s how it’s handled past distillation, and for drinks you’ll probably pick the simplest one anyway.
Alright man, not even gonna bother reading. Go make caipirinha with regular rum, not specifically brazillian rum, and enjoy how shit it tastes.
I don’t know why this dude is so invested in denying that pinga has a distinctive taste. Talvez é argentino…
Me neither, he is just being pedantic to ‘win’ an argument on the internet, i doubt he ever tasted cachaça, much less a good caipirinha. Se fosse argentino ele teria experimentado pinga então acho que não é.
Ao mínimo ele sabe que uma caipirinha não é um mojito…
Maluco deve ver receita que usa vinho e falar que vinho de maça é a mesma coisa entao usa maça haha
Já expliquei que cachaça e outros tipos de rum são feitos da mesma coisa, cana. E já expliquei também o impacto no sabor. E mesmo se fossem feitos de coisas diferentes (não são), destilados têm gosto muito mais parecido entre si do que fermentados. Tua comparação é duplamente estúpida.
Não é semântica nem pedantismo. É só um tipo de rum e tem gosto de rum.
Outra coisa: cachaça custa quinze pila aqui, claro que já bebi. Até mencionei cachaça de Salinas e o “véio barrêro”. Ou vocês (incluo o @eestileib@sh.itjust.works ) estão “çupondu” de onde sou? Cuidado, supôr é uma ótima forma de mostrar a todos “sou um imbecil e mereço ser tratado como tal”, é isso que vocês querem das suas vidas?
Engulam o choro e lidem com isso. Especialmente você, já que a verdade ofende teus sentimentozinhos tããão preciosinhos, tãããão bonitinhos, de um troço que caga discurso nacionalista e depois come a própria merda. “NÃÃÃO, É HESPECIAU I DIFERENTE PURQUE DIGO QUE ÇIM!” - você.
Se eu tivesse visto as asneiras de vocês antes, teria respondido antes. Conferi porque tava escrevendo em como lidar como imbecis (sério).
Estaremos aguardando ansiosamente as respostas de Vossas Excelentíssimas Acefalias, embora eu não vá respondê-las. Se quiserem continuar chafurdando em negação, quem sou eu para impedir?
Poderiam ter acordado sem essa.
If you have an impaired reading comprehension, or if highlighting that cachaça is a type of rum hurts your precious, so precious nationalistic feelings so much, to the point that you’re desperately gatekeeping booze, you do you. But perhaps you should’ve stayed in Reddit then.
It works better with Bacardi than with Salinas. (I regret the later. Salinas is great, just not good for caipira)