• DegenerateSupreme@lemmy.zip
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    I feel conflicted. On one hand, people can regulate themselves, and Facebook becoming a bigoted cesspit may bring more people to a moderated Fediverse.

    On the other hand, these major platforms having such user monopoly and influence can cause unfettered hate speech to breed violence.

    I’m conflicted about the idea that an insidious for-profit megacorporation should be expected to uphold a moral responsibility to prevent violence; their failure to do so might be a necessary wake-up call that ultimately strips them of that problematic influence. Thoughts?

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      Accelerationism is ultimately burning the vulnerable at the stake to try and send a smoke signal, so I think it’s hard to say that this is a positive development. We can hope that there is a silver lining here where corporate social media self selects itself out of the general populations’ lives, but I think we probably have to be realistic about the low probability of success here and the human cost that is incurred in the meantime

  • b1tstrem1st0@lemmy.world
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    So what I see is, Meta first creates the problem of trans-metaverse by super aggressive inorganic promotion and then makes it even worse by cutting the expenses on such useless promotion. XD

    L for all those who fell for it. Society eats you up (not sexually, keep your pants on) for getting mentally manipulated so easily.

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    It’s worth noting you’re only allowed to insultingly say someone has a mental illness in relation to their gender or sexual orientation.

    Do not post … Insults, including those about: … Mental characteristics, including but not limited to allegations of stupidity, intellectual capacity, and mental illness, and unsupported comparisons between PC groups on the basis of inherent intellectual capacity. We do allow allegations of mental illness or abnormality when based on gender or sexual orientation, given political and religious discourse about transgenderism and homosexuality and common non-serious usage of words like “weird.”

    Source: https://transparency.meta.com/policies/community-standards/hateful-conduct/

    Edit: and the changelog is a hoot.

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      Wonder how much longer you’ll be able to question the impact professional gambling has on the outcome of UFC matches.

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    I guess this is what fascists consider “freedom”.

    Personally I would rather escape wasting my life in servitude to capital.

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    I think the big reason they are allowing it is because they got to cut the entire cost of having moderation with an external vendor. Not because they have an agenda or anything. Its pure dollars.

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      Nah it’s clearly ideological when you look at the details of their new moderation policies. They now allow you to call people crazy, but only if it’s because they’re LGBT.

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    Let’s for a second assume it is a mental illness, how does that make the people feel who are experiencing it? Do they feel loved and understood? If you suffered from the same mental illness where the most effective treatment is tolerance and acceptance, how would you like to be treated?

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        Honestly, I think you’d be surprised. I live in a very red state, and my work participates in the local Pride parades (free rainbow shirts, and a tent), and I see a lot more pride flags in my neighborhood than Trump flags. Granted, my company is in a liberal, but my neighborhood is in a very conservative area (usually 70-80% for the GOP candidate).

        Of course, outward displays don’t mean as much as actual relationships, but it’s a lot better than people make it out to be.

        We are pretty far from ideal though, but we’re largely moving forward (two steps up and one step back).

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          They pretend they don’t hate gay people but vote for people and policies that are virulently homophobic. It’s all performative bullshit so they can pretend they’re still good people.

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            Political party platforms and public opinion are rarely aligned.

            For example, there was a ballot initiative to dramatically expand medical marijuana to the point that it was almost recreational (allowed growing your own for personal use), and it passed. The legislature largely rejected it and submitted a much weaker bill and people were pissed. On the flipside, the legislature unanimously passed a ban on conversion therapy, so I guess there’s some hope.

            People have a lot of reasons to vote the way they do. Most campaigns in my state focus on fiscal issues, and the local Democratic party pushes for things the voters don’t want (usually higher minimum wage and education spending), while Republicans push for things voters do want (lower taxes mostly). The Democratic party doesn’t even seem to be trying to court the middle, but the one candidate who did won a seat, and then that district was gerrymandered into safety.

            Public opinion rarely matches the legislature’s agenda. So it’s unfair to blame the public for what their representatives do.

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      Let’s for a second assume it is a mental illness, how does that make the people feel who are experiencing it? Do they feel loved and understood?

      “Hate the sin, love the sinner” has been the historical approach far-right evangelicals use to gull parents into conversation therapy for their kids.

      Conservatives have adopted much of the same liberalish compassionate language up top and horrifyingly brutal physical, emotional, and sexual abuse on the back end for drug rehabilitation and prison reform.

      The American idea of love and understanding is to brainwash them into compliance with social norms, while insisting the torture they’re inflicting is a kindness.

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        It should be noted that the framing of it as a sin was after the medical community accepted its not a mental illness. Before that it was “you’re sick and need help”.

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        “Hate the sin, love the sinner”

        The problem is that people don’t actually do the second, they replace “love” with “pity.” Pity isn’t love, it’s intolerance. If you truly love someone, you won’t care whether they sin or not, you’ll just love them for who they are and want them to be the happiest they can be.

        Whether homosexuality is a sin shouldn’t be relevant at all, sin is between an individual and their god, especially in Christianity.

        The problem is that people justify their intolerance by misinterpreting or misapplying phrases like these. They think things like conversion therapy is a demonstration of love, when in fact it’s a demonstration of brutal intolerance.

        The root of the problem here is intolerance, not the words we use to describe something.

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    Fuck Meta and Zuck. I wish I could stop using WhatsApp, as every other Meta product is out of my devices already.

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      Every journey needs a first step.

      Try to convince some of your contacts to use something else. Repeat until a large chunk of your contacts are available outside WhatsApp, and make yourself increasingly harder to access through WhatsApp and increasingly easier to access on your preferred alternative.

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    greed is a mental illness.

    billionaires are greedy.

    the rich are a plague upon society and must be quarantined.

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      Never has been:

      According to the text messages, Zuckerberg wrote, “Yeah, so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard, just ask me. I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS.”

      In response, a friend inquired, “What? How did you manage to obtain all that?”

      To which Zuckerberg callously replied, “People just submitted it. I don’t know why they ‘trust me.’ Dumb f****.”

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    ?? If you go through insta reels and comments you will encounter a metric called “n words / minute”, I don’t think meta cared about moderation at any point

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    My mom believes the bullshit about LGBTQ being a mental illness. Can’t wait for it to get worse! Thanks Facebook!

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    They always did because their moderators didn’t act upon old rules anyway.