• ShranTheWaterPoloFan@startrek.website
      14·
      1 year ago

      I’m with you.

      Look at the bajorans. They are shown as sympathetic in the show, but are backwards and superstitious. Time and time again there are olive branches offered to the bajoran people but they responded with terrorism and violence. Sure, the occupation wasn’t perfect, but Gul Dukat tried to make it better. He saved so many lives and there are no statues of Gul Dukat on Bajor. He should have killed them all.

    • blackbelt352@lemmy.sdf.org
      12·
      1 year ago

      Just like the rest of Trek, it takes a season to grow the beard and for everyone to get comfortable in their roles and for the writers to get comfortable.

      However It’s very different from the rest of Star Trek however, it’s not about the exploration of the universe. Is much more of a look of what it is like on a starbase and the day to day operations on that starbase.

    • teft@startrek.website
      11·
      1 year ago

      You’re missing out on the best episode of trek ever (In the Pale Moonlight) which features the best character plain simple tailor in Star Trek, Elim Garak.

    • quindraco@lemm.ee
      5·
      1 year ago

      It’s fundamentally TNG but better, did you like TNG? E.g. it fixes the biggest flaw of TNG, which was how Picard was always right. Sisko is very frequently wrong.

      • SokathHisEyesOpen@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        That wasn’t a problem with TNG. Idk why people are so opposed to an idealized future with a strong lead these days. Picard was an example of what we might aspire to be. He was wise, fair, and strong.

        • AEsheron@lemmy.world
          2·
          1 year ago

          TNG was DC, paragons that we should all aspire to. DS9 was Marvel, what would happen if actual people are put into extraordinary situations. The comic comparison isn’t perfect, but I think it’s still largely the popular conception of the core properties of each.

          • kameecoding@lemmy.world
            3·
            1 year ago

            that DC v Marvel is such a lazy, bad take if you are talking movies I can’t take anything you say about TNG vs DS9 seriously

            • AEsheron@lemmy.world
              2·
              1 year ago

              I mean, ask a random person off the street if it sounds right though. Like I said, not an accurate summation anymore, but the popular perspective for their primary vehicles, Justice League vs X-Men, for example. I know there’s lots of DC that doesn’t fit, Constantine, Watchmen, Redhood etc all exist, but the average Joe hears DC and probably doesn’t think much beyond JL. And not say Marvel doesn’t go classic paragon of good occasionally too, but their most popular properties, Spider-Man, Hulk, X-Men, and the MCU versions of their characters are all depicted as being more deeply flawed, regular folks wrestling with having so much power.

              • kameecoding@lemmy.world
                2·
                1 year ago

                I would expect to a recommendation about why DS9 is better than TNG be a bit more nuanced, than Marvel v DC, that’s my issue with your take.

                I deleted the rest of my comment, because I don’t feel like getting into a Marvel v DC war, but your description is still generic surface level stuff and highly inaccurate if we are talking about movies.

    • nilaus@lemmy.world
      4·
      1 year ago

      I struggled all through season 1 and then somewhere in season 2 it started growing on me. It is now my favourite trek, and having grown up only knowing tng that is no small feat.

      • AEsheron@lemmy.world
        1·
        1 year ago

        It grew on me too, but it never fully clicked. The characters just didn’t resonate with me for some reason, the plots, themes, and chemistry was all good, just, eh. Exception of Garak, by God I loved Garak. Any scene was made better by his presence.

    • SokathHisEyesOpen@lemmy.mlEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      It is bad… At first! That’s pretty standard for Trek though. All the old shows have a bad start and then get really good. Skip to the middle of s2. You can circle back around to the beginning at the end if you want. I tried to watch DS9 unsuccessfully several times before using the above approach. It’s an amazing show once it gets going!

      • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        I don’t know if I agree with your tactic. DS9, unlike almost all other Trek, is about the characters and how they grow over time. Usually the shows are just about some mystery and everything returns mostly to normal after. DS9 the story actually effects the characters. You need to be introduced to them for it to be meaningful, but I do agree that wasn’t super great.

        • SokathHisEyesOpen@lemmy.mlEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          This is true, but I wouldn’t have experienced any of that at all if I hadn’t skipped ahead. I wasn’t able to force my way through the first season, despite trying a few times.

    • FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 year ago

      I watched the whole thing and didn’t care for it tbh. There are some great characters, but I didn’t care for the storytelling for the most part.