• idefix@sh.itjust.works
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    Dear random strangers,

    I have bought Thinkpad T for many years following your advice. Then I moved to Dell Latitude 3 years ago as this was your recommendation. So far, very happy with them!

    Where should I go for my next laptop? Is it time for framework?

    (I’m looking for 14" business laptops, excellent screen, good audio, light and solid, performance is a nice-to-have, Linux-only)

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      Don’t get a framework. It’s a gimmicky waste of money.

      Why exactly do you need a new laptop, anyways? Have your hardware requirements really increased that much in 3 years to warrant looking for a new device?

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        While I like the general objectives behind framework, I am not convinced about their standard qualities.

        My laptop is fine, I just want to understand the trends in the industry and where to buy when it eventually dies. For the record, I have a Dell Latitude 7410 released in 2020 (bought used) and it works perfectly. However, I wish I could have better audio, higher-quality trackpad, and a lighter laptop.

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          Because it’s overpriced. You can get better hardware for lower prices.

          The framework laptop only exists to take money from people who don’t know any better and want to feel 1337.

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        I would never again recommend MSI… I bought a 3000€ MSI Creator 3 years ago for work :

        • the hinges are breaking apart
        • some metal part on the size broke
        • the keyboard letter are scraping off
        • the microphone on Linux is unusable because of the fans

        Reaplcing the keyboard requires a full body replacement, which costs like 300€ 🙃

        I’ve also had some very bad experiences with a entry price gaming msi for someone in my family.

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          It seems like every other PC Laptop has a problem whether it’s a Lenovo or Asus for example, my feedback on MSI has been good so far mostly based post-pandemic but things indeed can change if that’s your case. Do you have any preference of your own?

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            You’re right, all manufacturers have their issues. I have a hard time finding one where you feel like it’s a safe bet. Which is why I’m leaning toward framework, but the company is young and has far less experience, so it’s also a risk…

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        I was under the impression they were more gaming oriented than “business”, am I mistaken then?

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          XPS used to be the premium gaming brand Dell released to compete with the likes of Alienware, only for them to buy Alienware and relegate XPS to high end enterprise category. Gaming only means a Nvidia GPU or proper performance but don’t fall for AI PC to Ultrabook kind of categorisations with Windows side of things - Whether you’re into LLM, Content Generation, Data Processing, Blender, Editing, Gaming or even Mining… all will be achieved as long as the CPU-GPU is capable. Razer is one example that copies MacBook Pro aesthetics while having RGBs to cater to both professionals and gamers with one product line but aren’t necessarily with good or respectable after sales service.

          I would’ve suggested Asus ROG as well like the G14 for price-to-performance ratio but they’ve been recently falling from grace as well mostly realised by users after the purchase is complete. Not many options are there really globally.