- cross-posted to:
- globalnews@lemmy.zip
- cross-posted to:
- globalnews@lemmy.zip
Russia’s Luna-25 spacecraft has crashed into the Moon after spinning into an uncontrolled orbit, officials say.
The unmanned craft was due to make a soft landing on the Moon’s south pole, but failed after encountering issues as it moved into its pre-landing orbit.
It was Russia’s first Moon mission in almost 50 years.
The spacecraft was scheduled to land on Monday to explore a part of the Moon which scientists think could hold frozen water and precious elements.
Roskosmos, Russia’s state space corporation, said it lost contact with the Luna-25 shortly after running into difficulties.
You must log in or register to comment.
Normally, I’d say that it’s a great shame that a piece of valuable scientific equipment was lost and that it’s a massive loss to humanity as a whole as the international scientific community is usually able to co-operate regardless of boarders.
But this time, Russia said they won’t be sharing any data gathered from this probe with the international community and would be keeping it all to themselves so suddenly I don’t give a shit.
I agree but I’m also happy that Putin doesn’t get a win by presenting this as “Russia is great and all because of me”.
Reminds me state TV propoganda “no Putin - no Russia”.
Technically he won, otherwise it was vicroty of science over Putin’s corruption.
Maybe they actually found something amazing and this is a cover story so we dont try to force them to share it.
Could be, but I assume Putin would prefer a successful mission for propaganda purposes domestically and to the rest of world.
you didn’t put the ‘/s’
I’m huge space nerd, but I personally wouldn’t say that loss of space mission is a loss for humanity.
If the James Webb had failed to deploy, I would have been fucking pissed. That would have been a massive loss for humanity.
A random moon probe, not so much. I’m almost happy Russia is denied the good space PR and nationalism bump.
I wonder why. Maybe they were going to sell it to China? Or maybe putting random sycophants in the position of running their space program leads to this type of political stunt.
How much data did they gather from the probe?
Just enough to prove their extreme level of incompetence in doing anything at all.
deleted by creator
Well, they actually hit what they were aiming for at least.
deleted by creator
Oh no, don’t worry, they’re still doing that
Murdered by words
yeah that’s a bullseye
deleted by creator
Sucks for the scientists / engineers.
I wonder how long until we start hearing about them “falling” out of windows.
I wonder how long until we stop hearing these stupid jokes.
Jokes?
deleted by creator
It’s probably too early for this to be a reason for the crash, but Russian brain drain after their full-scale Ukrainian invasion is real.
Brain-drain is going for last 20 years of Putin presidency
The “Kaputnik” has landed.
This made me laugh more than it should.
Boy, that Russian missile REALLY missed the pre-school in Kiev they were aiming for.
*Kyiv
Removed by mod
There’s no bI in Ukrainian.
Removed by mod
Ukrainian И produces near-front near-close unrounded vowel.
Russian ЬІ produces close central unfounded vowel.
Do not pronounce Kyiv with the latter. The articulation is just not as comfortable as the native one.
Russian to Ukrainian mapping: ы - и и - i й - ï
Removed by mod
Well, Russia certainly lived up to its reputation.
Maybe we can give the moon lander the benefit of the doubt and assume it spotted a rock that looked like a children’s hospital, prompting a change in priorities.
They rushed a project to compete with NASA’s VIPER rover and just wanted to be first.
They were also trying to be the Indian team, who are taking a longer time using gravitational whip to send their mission to the Moon’s pole.
They were actually always pretty good at unmanned missions. This was the same design from the 1970s.
Yeah historically we’ve used them a ton for collaborations in space architecture. I can’t share too much but my team has worked with them, before my time, and they refused to make any advancements in certain systems. Since then collaboration has been incredibly difficult but not because of Russia’s engineers.
The Russians have a bunch of crashed spacecraft on Mars and no successful Mars landings.
The Soviets were also the only ones to successfully put a lander on Venus, and accomplished this in the 70s. They were a powerhouse when it came to unmanned missions: even with more primative control systems they had to work with.
Of course with the fall of the USSR all the smart people behind those successes could leave, so …
Removed by mod
There’s no sources on this that I could find and It’s definitely a weird thing to claim.
Why is it weird? Russian and American scientists have been competing for decades
deleted by creator
That is basically the rough history of our planets space exploring ventures. American/russia one upping each other.
Removed by mod
Laika is still up there and happy…
LMAOOOOOO
Seems like russian science is as shit as russian military
Well then they just send 1000 probes and I’m sure one will work eventually
Removed by mod
Don’t forget about brain drain.
The majority of Russians with any braincells (or money) have already left the country.
Removed by mod
It’s roskosmos being roskosmos. I’m surprised it didn’t explode mid-air.
Roskosmos is usually pretty competent.
I mean, they helped build the ISS (and a lot more) and have sent a lot people up there for YEARS without any fatalities.
^^^and ^^^no ^^^I ^^^dont’t ^^^like ^^^Russia.
Engieneers are mostly competent(even with salary of about 50k ₽/mo or 550$/mo), but managment… Incompetent managmemt is best you can hope, because Rogozin is much worse.
Production and quality control is so terrible that “accidentaly” much cheaper solder may be used, that later will cause A HOLE in ISS.
Also this particular mission was rushed. “Won’t be ready for another year? Launch now!”
“Won’t be ready for another year? Launch now!”
Ah, the EA strategy, a true classic!
You are never going to have competetent management when they’re forced to follow unrealistic goals due to political reasons.
Removed by mod
They will say Nato/US/Ukraine hacked into the spacecraft and made it crash. You heard it here first.
Essentially my narcissistic ex: everything bad that has ever happened to her is someone else’s fault.
so you’re saying Steven Segal likes Russia because it’s sort of a home for Narcissism… yeah, i guess i can see that…
Removed by mod
Removed by mod
oh yeah, forgot that one
deleted by creator
Removed by mod
deleted by creator
Huh. I don’t see any hexbears or Lemmygrads on this thread. Interesting. Can’t complain.
God it is validating to see you say that. I’m new to the platform, reddit refugee, and am bombarded by what appears to be hard core communists. It’s exhausting.
They are not communists, they are russian apologists.
They’re tankies.
deleted by creator
Also the fact that they all act like /r/the_donald trolls
Nothing makes me less inclined to hear out your opinion when you’re acting like a middle schooler whose trying to look cool in front of his friends lol
Tankies used to care about communism. Now they’re just anti-western. They will not question if Russia or China are actually communist because it doesn’t matter. They don’t care about worker protections or freedoms. They only care about “owning the west.”
Yeah I find them rather funny… I’m antiamerican and leftist but many seem to think that it’s a binary and we must choose.
Having actually lived and worked in China for the CPC, I find their idolizing of the modern Chinese nation-state a bit laughable
Fuck Putin, fuck Stalin. Peace to world, glory to science and production, mechanize ancillary work, reduce manual labour.
Here’s a little bit of communism you didn’t want.
deleted by creator
Not communists. (Also, most of them have never made a commit. They didn’t do anything.)
Sure, the original developer runs Lemmygrad. Doesn’t matter. The great thing about FOSS is that no one owns it. There have been many contributers, not just the first person. Also, anyone can fork it if things go bad. No one owns FOSS. You can use it and contribute to it, but you can’t own it.
I don’t care about their personal beliefs of any one of the contributers. As long as the software works, that’s fine. I like rocketry, but the nazis contributed a lot to that. It doesn’t matter though. It doesn’t change the function of it.
deleted by creator
God it is validating to see you say that. I’m new to the platform, reddit refugee, and am bombarded by what appears to be hard core communists. It’s exhausting.
Those communists are the ones who built the platform you’re speaking on.
I just meant this place wouldn’t exist without some of these “communists” and since they made it and were here for years before most of us, it’s not surprising there’s a lot of communist content.
You sound like you’re implying that because they made significant technical contributions to useful software, then that automatically validates their political beliefs, and /u/KrayZeeOne@lemm.ee should just put up with it.
deleted by creator
Sure, and the software is pretty good. Nazi rockets were also good. It doesn’t mean anything else is good or valid about them. I don’t care if the creator is a tanky (definitely don’t care if they’re a communist) to enjoy the software. It is a useless point to say they created it as a way to justify anything else being good.
It’s an appeal to false authority and therefore unrelated to the conversation.
deleted by creator
Sure, the original developer runs Lemmygrad. Doesn’t matter. The great thing about FOSS is that no one owns it. There have been many contributers, not just the first person. Also, anyone can fork it if things go bad. No one owns FOSS. You can use it and contribute to it, but you can’t own it.
You sound like communist
Yeah, I would mostly agree with that. More of an anarchist bent, but sure. I’m not a tanky. I have no issue with communism, but I do have an issue with authoritarianism, especially authoritarianism that uses the name communism as a cover while not protecting worker rights and freedoms.
And? They don’t run anything but their own instances.
Its FOSS. they don’t have any ownership over the platform as a whole. If they started trying to fuck with the lemmy source code for their own agenda, then we’d just fork it and carry on as before
deleted by creator
No not at all. The core contributors of lemmy just happen to be communist
They’ve been real quiet since that probe dropped 😂
deleted by creator
There is nothing communistic in Rogozin
Isn’t Lemmygrad defederated from this instance
Could be. They aren’t on my home instance. I’ve seen several threads about this and literally none of them, as far as I could see, had any comments from them.
What, invading Ukraine wasn’t enough and now they need to pollute the moon with their piece of shit spacecraft too?
Fuck Putin, fuck Russia, etc, etc.
Slava Ukraini!
Removed by mod
They call it a successful missile strike on the moon and they’re back to winning again.
The Lunar War over minerals is going to be so fucking stupid and fun.
Removed by mod
There probably isn’t a worse war in terms of property damage per money spent to damage it you could come up with. Setting up a system of mining minerals, sending it back to earth, and making money on the process is going to be the biggest megaproject you can imagine. All of it very easy to break.
No no no, the moon illegally and meanly crashed into innocent Russia’s poor little defenseless space robot without any provocation!
Robot Fedor)))))))
“Today, Russian engineers managed a perfect example of Lithobreaking on the moon, showing the superiority of Soviet cosmonautics.” – Russian News Outlets
Must’ve been a Ukrainian
hospitalmilitary base there.
