Former President Donald Trump is expected to surrender himself to the Fulton County jail at the end of next week – on Thursday or Friday, a senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the surrender told CNN.
Can we all just stop for a second and appreciate what a crazy fucking time it is to be alive in this country?
Absolutely. And in so many way. I’m only in my 40s and I feel like I’m living in a vastly different world than the one I was born into.
The rate of change is unlike anything humans have ever had to cope with in our 2 million year history.
For almost all of human existence, there wasn’t even a CONCEPT of progress… no sense that humanity was going anywhere. Your life was virtually identical to that of your great great great grandfather, and would be the same experience had by your great great great grandchild.
I remember a world of rotary phones, small towns with personalities before chains homogenized the world. I remember how the United States had a whole different personality before 9-11. I remember when Republicans had actual plans for governing (OBAMA’S affordable care act was basically a clone of Bob Dole’s plan). I remember the world before the Internet, when malls were packed and buzzing, when shopping in stores felt magical and not like a ghost town.
I remember analog and even black and white TVs. I remember the first video games and PCs,b dial-up Internet, browsers before tabs were invented.
I remember when acid rain was there number one environmental concern, and how we actually accepted the science and made policy to fix it.
I remember the bugs.
I remember so many more bugs. The night alive with fireflies. Windshields plastered with splatters on the highway.
I remember paper maps! FM radio. Cassette adapters.
The world is so, so, so different. It changed so fast.
Republicans became a suicide cult.
The government stopped breaking up monopolies, and started bailing out too-big-to-fail banks.
The United States tortures people now. People never charged of a crimes were tortured at Guantanamo Bay.
I grew up in a home that my parents bought cheap. They had two cars. They took us on vacations every year. They saved up for retirement. My dad had a PhD. He did well.
I have a law degree. I will never own a home. I will never be able to afford even a single vacation. I will never be able to retire.
They rolled back Roe.
They staged an insurrection.
I’ve been working with GPT-4 night and day since it was released to the public. I’m 100 percent convinced that with a little supplementation, it is the first artificial GENERAL intelligence.
It can already create better writing and code than MOST of the human population.
Where will it be in 5 years? 10? 20?
It’s going to be smarter, funnier, more creative, more thoughtful than all of us. In our lifetime. WHY, then, are we even HERE at that point? Why do we even exist?
These were questions for science fiction. For the future.
It’s happening NOW. WE, of all humans in the span of history, are the ones who will see our species become obsolete.
So yeah. Let’s take moment to realize how cosmically, historically insane it is to live in this moment.
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Amen. And love your first point about how way back, the average person did not have a concept of progress in their day-to-day life.
I guess that didn’t really start to blow up until Newton laid the laws of physics down (along with calculus - what a guy) to allow for drastic scientific development. Once we had steam engines and the Industrial Revolution…change has become almost commonplace now.
I too remember paper maps…always in the glove box.
Having to remember phone numbers.
Encyclopedias
No cell phone and no internet.
I was thinking about your comment and came back. I’m nearly 39 so a similar age.
First of all. What if you put your phone down, got off the internet and had a look around at your life and what is happening directly in your world. I’ll bet it’s not as chaotic as it feels when we see crazy headlines everywhere. You get up, chat with your family if you are lucky enough to live with someone, perhaps you go to work and interact with your coworkers or clients, hopefully the day isn’t too stressful. Come home, think about what you will have for dinner and hope it doesn’t make you too fat. Go to bed. You might squeeze in some time for hobbies, or visiting friends on the weekends.
Sure, housing is a massive problem right now, but financial bleakness isn’t new - imagine how it felt to live through the great depression? I’m in Australia, but a couple of years ago we had my son’s birthday at this nice lookout at the top of a hill. There was a plaque there that read that the road to the top of the hill was built by men during the depression in exchange for food to feed their families. The more kids you had the more hours you had to work. It was like 5 or more kids was a mandatory 12 hour day.
That would have felt bleak and like there was no way out.
Imagine getting caught up in world war 2? You would think the world had now really gone to shit. It was so traumatizing to the population here that every tiny town has a plaque of all the people who died from it. The names in the list are usually longer than the population of the town right now.
Then after the war, stuff like the threat of atomic war, nuclear winters and the entire earth dying because of a conflict escalation.
You described my childhood experience perfectly, but we might have just been very lucky and grew up in an optimistic decade full of rationality and scientific progress.
Bugs. Yeah. That still creeps me out.
It’s probably just the one of the first signs of ecological collapse due to climate change so nothing to worry about :(
Le sigh. Yup.
cant bone a robot. i don’t think it’ll be replacing us anytime soon
Not with that attitude
As someone who was in first grade when the towers went down I have to ask, how did the country’s personality change from your view? What was it like before vs now?
The clearest way I can illustrate this is that after Pearl Harbor was attacked, FDR have his famous speech which carried foremost the message: “we have nothing to fear but fear itself”.
Contrast that to Bush’s message, which was, essentially: Be afraid! Give up your liberty for (the illusion of) security!
For years it was: If you see something suspicious, call the cops! Let the government inspect you if you want to ride the subway! (But only at some stops. Terrorists, please don’t walk a block down to the next station!). If you really want to help, spend money buying whatever! Take off your shoes to board a plane! Our government recommends you buy a bunch of hardware to protect your home against chemical weapons and dirty bombs!
Or: oh, hey, we invented a color-coded system to tell you how scared you should be all the time! (Pay no attention to the fact that we’ll go on high sheet every time my administration comes under scrutiny for anything!)
Or: hey, we can label ANYONE we want as “ENEMY COMBATANTS” and they will have NO RIGHTS and we will torture them.
What changed was that Bush’s administration used inflated fear of terrorism as a means of control. And if you voted against something in Congress… say, a war with Iraq (who had NOTHING TO DO with 9-11) you were branded as unpatriotic, and you got death threats.
Don’t forget Freedom Fries, because those French pussies wouldn’t join “George and Tony’s Rootin’ Tootin’ Shoot 'Em Up Middle East Tour.”
I think American citizens of Japanese descent would disagree with your good old days assessment of how Americans were treated by their own government during WW2. They certainly had their liberty and livelihoods taken from them. Furthermore people of color in general were still under the thumb of institutionalized racism that continues to this day. Do you believe they were better off back then too?
You’re talking about oppression of minorities, and no one is going to argue that that was unconscionable. But I’m referring to the character if America as a whole. No part of our population was untouched by the darkness of the Bush administration.
I think FreeLikeGNU has a point here… the happier America as described has generally only been a reality for a subset of the population. Can we really suggest that is/was the ‘character [of] America’ as a whole?
The whole “MAGA” thing feels related to this point. Its like a large group of American’s feel the oppression, fear and lack of optimism and, in their anger and frustration, have embraced a view that what made America great was the division and exploitation rather than the optimism.
I’d argue causality — that they were purposefully led to that view by exploitative fuckwad Republican leadership that cared about Party more than the country and who used the fear, and exploited the crisis, to gain and maintain power and now don’t want to give it up. But we don’t really need to understand why or who led that change to also step back and be sad that the change happened.
Pretty sure you said:
Or: hey, we can label ANYONE we want as “ENEMY COMBATANTS” and they will have NO RIGHTS and we will torture them.
You don’t think sending an entire ethnic group who are also American citizens to internment camps in the dessert forcing them to abandon their homes, work, friends, businesses is what you just described?
That’s slightly different. (Very slightly). Those American citizens actually did have the right to fight their incarceration in court.
… It just so happens that the court absolutely shit the bed in a 6-3 ruling about their constitutionality
On the other hand, internment camps were effectively ended by the the supreme Court the next year.
Contrast that with “enemy combatants” who had NO ACCESS TO THE CIVILIAN COURT SYSTEM.
All true.
The fear mongering the GOP party engages in now is unparealleled in its scope and voracity. All one has to do is mention limits on gun ownership to see the responses that start with “BUT I NEED PROTECTION!”
Not everyone is out to get you.
I could definitely see that, thanks. It’s been a great frustration of my life to see “American the brave” regularly be “America the scared”, and as I’ve gotten older I’ve increasingly found it (and many post 9-11 policies) ridiculous. I hope we can fix this in the coming decades, I wasn’t old enough to speak up or understand what was going on then… I am now.
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Preach!
I’m nearing 40 myself, I’m so depressed at what the future holds for my children.
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I’ll recognize it, but I’d rather not appreciate it. I’d appreciate it if half the country had never been infatuated with an historically proven con-man with delusions of grandeur. Legitimately one of the must frustrating realities for someone who believes in democracy to grapple with is that half the population MUST be less than average intelligence (and even some of greater intelligence will choose willful ignorance).
Appreciate has two different meanings.
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to value or admire highly
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understand (a situation) fully; recognize the full implications of.
It’s can be awkward because they are really divergent meanings with almost apposed connotations.
You’re correct. I was being intentionally obtuse to agree about the sentiment, but also further the lament. Kind of a “being funny to myself (and maybe no one else)” moment, but publicly expressed.
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For real. Can anyone say that they guessed this would actually be a headline 7 years ago?
I could’ve guessed a coup would happen as a result of his presidency and that he should be in prison yea. He’s a lifelong crook and criminal and we had suspicions of outside involvement in the 2016 election cycle from the instant the_donald blew up
He said ahead of the 2016 election that he wouldn’t accept the results if he lost.
Yeah, that was the moment I knew shit was gonna get weird.
@gravitas_deficiency
And yet he still gets to walk around and promise to pay for people’s meals, then skip as if nothing is happening. It’s annoying
He didn’t even accept that he won*.
*“Won” in America means “gamed the system the best” not “got the most votes.”
Watching from this side of the pond is entertaining in a sad kind of way.
Trump is a figurehead of something above and below him that is a serious danger to democracy.
The same ideology that pushed Trump is the same ideology that created Brexit and is trying to break the NHS.
We’re all in a very dangerous boat right now.
This timeline can’t get any weirder
WHY WOULD YOU PUT THIS THOUGHT INTO THE UNIVERSE AS A CHALLENGE
If we’re going though planet scale catastrohpic events, at least sprinkle some comedy in there haha
I like you. You’re pretty alright.
Don’t say that!
Just wait.
There’s a looming existential crisis headed humanity’s way that most are sleeping on at the moment because they are so caught up in the present and not looking enough at the implications of the future.
As we catch up to that future, the relationship between odd behaviors inherent to the universe we find ourselves in and the universes we are progressively building is going to get harder to ignore.
I think a lot of people are going to have a really hard time coming around to what that’s going to mean.
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In societies or individuals, a condition of instability resulting from a breakdown of standards and values or from a lack of purpose or ideals.
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I’m halfway across the world and it’s been a crazy ride watching a country disgrace itself while also tearing itself to pieces.
It hasn’t been since 2016? Or 2001?
I feel like it all kinda went sideways starting around 2014ish (2016 certainly kicked it up a gear). Maybe I died then and it’s all some sort of 6th sense bullshit
It started when the Supreme Court handed the presidency to W despite him losing the election. Once that mask was fully off, so were all the rules.
I’ll believe it when I see it, but god damn is that a sexy headline.
I swear to god if I have another BBQ where I invite everyone, hire caterers and get a custom cake and this fucking turd slips out of his jail cell again I’m gonna flip my shit.
Yeah don’t have a BBQ. He will have a bond agreement in place before surrendering so likely he will bond out immediately.
If you read a headline that he got convicted in court and sentenced to prison time, then schedule the BBQ
Hell, I’m going to schedule a parade and fireworks.
Stop on over!
he’s going to “surrender to jail” because that’s what this step of the process is called. he’s not actually going to be locked up
So do you like bratwurst or burgers?
I prefer syrup
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Both.
Yo can I come to the BBQ? I can bring drinks or something.
I’ll believe it when I see the mugshot.
That will be so wild.
Haha I remember a couple months ago at his first arraignment, Trump’s team actually wanted a mugshot for the merch, and photoshopped one up when NY DA didn’t oblige.
He will finally get his wall.
Four of them at 6 by 8 feet.
What is this, a prison for African-Americans? Tangerine turd if convicted will almost certainly be sentenced to a Club Fed, assigned the Vlad V. Putin suite, daily Bingo at 2pm, dinner at 4, and country kitchen buffet Fridays.
this guy is definitely fleeing the country
He can’t. He’s minded by Secret Service agents
Wasn’t there a rumor making the rounds that the Secret Service is actually permeated by right-wing sympathizers? To the extent that they conveniently erased all archived text/digital communications between agents back in Jan 6? Story here
Given that backdrop I wouldn’t be surprised if they will be complicit in his escape.
Whenever a conservative bitches about The Deep State I roll my eyes. It has been around for decades and it’s on their side. There’s a reason Biden changed his security detail.
They are just bragging.
They’re gonna find him stuck halfway through his bathroom window on the 24th
The very best agents too
He’ll try it regardless
Fleecing*
Oh wait both fit…
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No way amigo, it’s already established by Rs that he can run the country as a convict. By extension he could run the country equally effective from mother Russia. There’s still 70 million people that’d vote for that.
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Do you really think he’s going to fly to Russia now? He’s got so much cash sitting in supporters pockets left and maybe a few years left to take it.
Now if he’s found guilty, yeah, I can see him running then rather than go to jail. But not yet.
Ah, if only he was a flight risk … I’d set the bail low to encourage him … But no
What does surrender mean? Will he actually spend any time in a cell?
No. He’ll be arrested, fingerprinted, photographed, and released.
Wait, do I understand correctly that he has to drop in to jail now (to register himself?) and then he’s free for another 6 months before the hearings commence?
Yup.
It’ll probably be years before he’s actually in prison, and then it’ll probably be “house arrest” because secret service doesn’t want to just cut bait.
They really should cut bait. Protecting a traitor is a worse look than the traitor getting shanked in jail
The Mar-a-lago Federal Super-Maximum Security Prison.
Has a nice ring to it.
Eh. I just want him somewhere he can see the world move on and forget about him.
Preferably someplace relatively uncomfortable. Coachroaches. Big ass spiders. Maybe them japanese centipedes…
Colombia tried this in Medellin some time ago and if I remember correctly it went well.
Lmao
Yea, but the trial wont start in 6 months. Legal analysts are saying it will be 2-3 years before the trial starts, because the prosecutor is trying all 19 people at once, they each get to make their own motions and requests to delay and all the legal procedural stuff that happens before a trial, but 19 times, and each one has to be heard by the judge and ruled on.
It’s believed his federal cases will be tried and ruled on before the jury is even seated in this Georgia case.
Might be faster if the people with no money to defend themselves turn state’s evidence
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That sounds so painfully slow
Well that’s disappointing. I understand why this is not the headline. Not click-baity enough.
he’s going to be “processed” then released on bail.
everything about his criminal proceedings have been basically the truck hitting bollard gif
https://67.media.tumblr.com/13cab760bc3b62c6408034017db27846/tumblr_o96e4q9rNV1qezukdo1_1280.gif
Outstanding analogy and follow up gif
Why must you impose this cursed gif on us
because I saw yet another thread about how trump is being punished, when nothing has happened to him for the past 4 years. Double impeachment? Big whoop. wake me up when he gets brought down a peg.
Trump:
Look I’ve consulted with our medical doctors, and they’re going to check it, and these doctors, they’re the best in the business you know? Huuuuuge. Hugest doctors that have ever doctored, best we’ve ever seen. Ever. And these are good doctors with tremendous skills. They’ve been studying this new thing that - and I’m not sure if you have heard of this as it’s groundbreaking, tremendous stuff, this knowledge that we have. But they’ve been talking to this Theranos doctor. At least I think she’s a doctor, she has this doctor team and I think she has the knowledge of a doctor. So anyway this doctor has a huge voice, deepest I’ve ever heard, the kind of voice that gets things done. And so I says to this doctor, supposing you brought this Theranos inside the body. Which you can do, either through the skin or in some other way, and she says she can’t bring Theranos into the body because it’s a huge building or whatever because I wasn’t really listening to the details, but she has some things she’s gonna test. And this Theranos stuff she does with her other doctors, it’s the best stuff to help stop prison you know? And she says, she’s done something similar in order to keep out of prison, something she researched with her team to bring a baby inside the body to stay out of prison. Supposing that could happen for me, or for anyone who doesn’t want prison, you know? Are we gonna look into that, if I can bring a baby inside my body? She says she’s gonna test that too. Sounds interesting. And then I see conspiracy and Truth, my version of truth, the best there ever was, and I heard that it knocks out things like prison in a minute. One minute, it’s crazy! Absolutely crazy. Is there a way we can do something llike that? Supposing we can inject truth inside the body, by injection or almost like a cleaning? To keep me out of prison. And she says we’re gonna look into that, too. And these aren’t rumors you know, this is the real stuff right here. Maybe you can, maybe you can’t? And again I say maybe you can, maybe you can’t because I’m not a doctor. But I’m like a person who has a good… uh, you know what. I think it’s a great thing to look at. And look, I’m the former president and you guys are fake news.
All right, you convinced me, I’m putting “Trump pregnant” on my 2024 bingo card.
This is great. Feels kinda like chat GPT wrote it but even if that’s the case it’s hilarious
Here was my inspiration for writing that:
Trump floats dangerous coronavirus treatment ideas as Dr Birx looks on (Duration: 1:58 minutes):
- YouTube link - https://youtu.be/BalDN6iGYpE
- Alternative Piped link, the privacy-respecting YouTube experience - https://piped.video/watch?v=BalDN6iGYpE
Trump expected to surrender
See, this is where you’re a bit mistaken…
He farts when you expect him to shit, and he shits when you expect him to fart. That’s the fart of the deal.
Well he could try to run I suppose. It would be pretty weird to have a presidential candidate running while in hiding in another country.
What would the Secret Service’s protocol in this scenario?
“this is unprecedented” as they stand around laughing and waving trump flags
They are getting paid. Who cares right?
Is that one of those rich people jails, where you are basically in a vacation?
Nah, it’s pretty famous for being a shithole. You can see for yourself in the Johnny Cash concert footage.
Wasn’t that Folsom, not Fulton?
Yes, but Fulton is still a well known shithole. Like, inmates keep dying there.
It’s a place where he’ll be booked, printed, (mugshot?) And then released. He won’t be inside a cell.
More like one of those federal, pound-me-in-the-ass prisons
“One of those rich people jails” ahh yes the rich people COUNTY JAIL.
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I’ll believe it when I see it but boy howdy, do I want to see it!
He’ll die of old age before setting foot in an actual cell.
I hope to be wrong but I doubt it.
Old fat guys have a way of just dying before consequences catch up with them. Look at madoff
they won’t put him in jail
No probably not yet anyways. He is just going to get his mug shot and finger prints and to hear the charges against him I think. Maybe some other stuff. But then he will go home and come back for his trial.
I’m not a legal expert it’s just already happened to this same man 3 times lol
he will not go through processing. he will not be put in handcuffs, will not have his mugshot taken or his fingerprints made.
Seems like he will be.
“The statement from the Fulton County sheriff’s office addressed the key question of where the former president would be arrested and processed as a criminal defendant.”
from here https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/15/politics/fulton-county-jail-trump/index.html
yeah I understand and I’ve done it myself. I just don’t see it happening to him. a former president with a lifetime secret service escort is hard to put in a jail. id love to see it.
I doubt he’ll be arrested, but he will be fingerprinted and have a mugshot done.
That, in and of itself, is a good thing. Wish I could be a fly on the wall there to see it.
I can’t wait to see his actual height and weight. This lop of dumps mugshot is gonna be hilarious
It’s a “photo op” to him. I’m calling it.
Don’t forget the louse powder and the fire hose.
I feel sorry for the guy who has to search his ass for contraband.
