• psychothumbs@lemmy.worldOP
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    -Not that this guy is necessarily a piece of shit or anything, it’s just that what’s being revealed about him through this music is the undercurrent of conservative ideology that is the water in which he swims and which he’s unconsciously reproducing in this song.

    So you’re saying you perceive him as a piece of shit because your assumptions of his policy proposals that are based on your assumptions of one line that he’s saying in a vacuum?

    I don’t think I can really keep engaging with you if you’re going to engage in such bad faith as to quote me saying he’s not a piece of shit and respond with “so you’re saying he’s a piece of shit” unless you apologize and promise to try to be a little more generous in your discourse going forward.

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      I don’t think I can really keep engaging with you if you’re going to engage in such bad faith as to quote me saying he’s not a piece of shit and respond with “so you’re saying he’s a piece of shit”

      Come on man, you just said ‘I’m not saying he’s a POS but he’s showing that he is’ Like, that’s the classic ‘I didn’t say she’s a bitch, she’s just acting like one.’

      I haven’t been hostile to you, I’ve been extremely civil, and I think we’ve done a good job quoting each other and responding to each others statements but you can see how that statement came across, right?

      I think you’re just using this one sentence of my statement showing that you’re being dishonest when representing this man and his song to try and get out of a good discussion. It’s a bit ironic, huh?

      I also want to note my statement in my last comment: Honestly, if you only respond to one thing, can you please answer this question: Do you honestly think you have 0 bias in your interpretations of his song because of how he appears and the type of music he’s playing?

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        You have not really been civil at all, and have repeatedly engaged in bad faith interpretations of what I and the article say, while accusing me of bias. If you can’t engage in any self-reflection over that I won’t engage with you.

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          I’ve been watching this and letting it play out, wondering when you would pick up on the 4chan style of engaging in discussions. It will be in bad faith and constantly having you on the back-foot. People with left leaning tendencies have a inherent need to communicate and talk, proofing statements they made. Right wingers have no such inclination , they can lie, distort, move goalposts, etc, all day long, no problem but you on the other hand will try your best to be good. Nobody can be 100% good, there will be a point that person will have a ‘gotcha!’ moment and you will be distraught for not getting it ‘right’.

          Good on you for seeing this!

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          I have been, just because I’m challenging how you’ve viewed this song doesn’t mean I’ve been hostile.

          while accusing me of bias.

          I asked if you had a bias. The fact you think this is hostile and refuse to answer is curious…