• JokeDeity@lemm.ee
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    Are we going to be sending them pilots as well or do they just expect them to start the long training process to learn how to fly them and hope the pointless (but Russia’s fault) war lasts long enough to use them?

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    Meanwhile, the people in Maui who lost their homes and everything they’ve ever owned get a one time payment of $700.

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      Funny how nobody ever makes these sorts of comments about, say, money we spend paying farmers to not grow corn, or money we spend on overpriced or useless weapons systems for our own military, or even specifically the military aid we give to wealthier, less deserving countries like Saudi Arabia and Israel; it’s always Ukraine that brings out the “how come we aren’t spending money on X” people.

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          You know I’ve been noticing a heck of a lot of communists on Lemmy the past week. It’s crazy, there’s this whole gaggle of people posting on socialism, hex bear, Games, vegan topics and related threads.

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      These jets were already sold to the Danes and Dutch, we’re just giving them the green light to send planes made by us to Ukraine to help free their people from oppressors

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        If they had instead sent those F-16s to the people of Maui they could have dropped napalm to create a firebreak ahead of the fire, saving hundreds of lives

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      Youre right, the Dutch should donate their old F16s to the suffering people of Maui because… Uhhh…

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      As much as I hate the idea that America is a capitalist hellscape that minces the poor to make ‘line go up’.

      Sometimes there’s this unfortunate coincidence where the military industrial complex inadvertently does some good.

      Russians are going to learn why America doesn’t have the money for universal healthcare.

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      You are right…. There should be a climate damage levy imposed on Exxon to help cover these extreme weather events and the people directly affected by their actions.

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      I think everybody who’s reading this thread is going to fail to see the connection you’re trying to draw between Hawaiian Electric and light and the Ukrainian military.

      Unless you have some sort of evidence that Ukraine owns and operates Hawaiian Electric and will somehow benefit from Hawaiians losing their ancestral homes.

      I mean, I’ve seen some stupid conspiracies of my time but this is just dumb.

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      in international weapons sales manufacturer’s country retains some degree of control over equipment even after sale, especially for heavy equipment like any aircraft, SPGs, SAMs, tanks and so on. so for example if Country A sells jets to Country B to serve in Country B’s air force, that’s all clear, but if then Country B wants to sell them somewhere else, it has to get Country A’s approval. otherwise, if these jets mysteriously find themselves in Country C’s air force, that happens to be enemy of Country A, then Country B can probably forget about any weapon deals with Country A and their allies for a long long time in addition to diplomatic mess it would cause

      this is that approval given from usa to nederlands and denmark, no money is involved

      there was little shitshow about it early in the war, because ammo for gepards was made in switzerland, and they didn’t approve of sale from germany to ukraine

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          Lol like Ukraine did with their nukes?

          So who’s going to disarm first? If the Russians disarm and fuck off home then yeah, war’s over. But what you’ve actually got are genocidal murderers and rapists trying to destroy a nation of people, and you in your armchair saying that we should allow it to continue. These are actual, real people. But feel free to head over there and spread the good word.

          The aggressors can stop whenever they want to. Suggesting that Ukraine shouldn’t have the means to protect itself is utterly ignorant.

          What the fuck has this got to do with right or left wing?

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          How are you gonna do that? Its a prisoner’s dilemma. You only need one regime (america/North Korea/ Russia…) to not abide. Good luck

          With kind regards,

          A “right winger(?)”