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One interesting quote that stood out to me:

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.), asked if he thinks Ocasio-Cortez will make it into leadership in the near term, told Axios: “Yes.”

  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    31·
    12 hours ago

    At this point, why not just say “fuck it, new party”? Honestly, I really do think there needs to be a full and clean break from the DNC establishment.

    • RedditWanderer@lemmy.world
      13·
      10 hours ago

      It’s called “the spoiler effect” and it’s detrimental to everyone in a 2 party system. Gotta change the system for that to work. It helps the opposing party, who are often happy to donate to that effort for that reason.

    • ceenote@lemmy.world
      16·
      12 hours ago

      I think the optics of “we did everything we could” will be important, if it comes to that.

      • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        12·
        12 hours ago

        Yeah, that’s fair. If Pelosi continues pulling out all the stops to keep the old guard in power in the next session of Congress, I’d be willing to bet that’s when the new party will actually get founded.

        • ceenote@lemmy.world
          5·
          11 hours ago

          I think the only plausible scenario that would draw away enough voters for the party to actually get replaced would be for a social democrat or progressive to win the presidential primary but the party leadership takes it away with convention or superdelegate shenanigans. If AOC runs, it might happen.

    • mercano@lemmy.world
      5·
      11 hours ago

      The fact our voting system kind of forces people to coalesce into two parties is causing friction in both at this point. You’ve got Pelosi’s old guard Dems infighting with the younger Progressives, and on the other side of the aisle there’s the MAGAs trying to force anyone unwilling to toe Herr Trump’s line out of the GOP.

    • ilinamorato@lemmy.world
      5·
      12 hours ago

      The problem is that the people who can get votes are the ones who would break away, but the people who control the money are the ones who would stay. You need both to get anyone elected.

      Splitting the party would be a hail mary; you’d be betting that you could make enough in small-dollar donations from individuals to run successful campaigns and get people into office. And if you were wrong, you’d be leaving the second-most-powerful party in the country in the hands of people like Pelosi, Clinton, and Manchin–and burning the bridge behind you.

      It’s not an impossible idea. In fact, it’s happened before (remember the Whigs?). But it’s a really tough road. I get why they’re leaving it as the last choice.