I actually have no idea about the details of that case. Given what I know about Trump (the grab em by the pussy line), I certainly wouldn’t be surprised to hear that he is a rapist.
That’s completely irrelevant to my point in this case though.
So Trump probably did it because you know more about his sexual proclivities than you know about Jay-Z’s sexual proclivities. Even though in both cases it was decades after the fact.
The difference is what we KNOW about each accused person. In one case we have quotes from the person himself admitting to sexual assault multiple times, along with dozens of accusations over time. In the other case we have no other accusations over a 30 year career in the industry from a person who doesn’t do anything to get headlines (unlike Kanye or Diddy) outside of make music. That doesn’t mean the other person hasn’t done bad things, but we know of absolutely no other instances. The person you’re replying to said they wouldn’t be surprised that the guy who admitted on tape of sexually assaulting women had raped a woman, and you’re complaining that they are hesitant to condemn a person of something extremely heinous with no evidence or previous examples of bad behavior?
I don’t want to. You could stop trying to avoid the topic at hand, but I understand that you find it very hard to ever admit to being wrong or making a mistake. You should try it some time, it actually feels good.
Yes you are. If the allegation is false, then you’re actually the one who is victim-blaming right now. But that’s a possibility that you refuse to consider, because you seem to think it’s sexist to suspect one individual woman of making a false accusation. If it was a man filing a lawsuit that he got beat up or robbed 25 years ago at that same party, I would be equally skeptical of his claims.
Was it suspicious when E. Jean Carroll sued Trump? Do you think he’s innocent of raping her?
I actually have no idea about the details of that case. Given what I know about Trump (the grab em by the pussy line), I certainly wouldn’t be surprised to hear that he is a rapist.
That’s completely irrelevant to my point in this case though.
So Trump probably did it because you know more about his sexual proclivities than you know about Jay-Z’s sexual proclivities. Even though in both cases it was decades after the fact.
And you think this is logical, do you?
The difference is what we KNOW about each accused person. In one case we have quotes from the person himself admitting to sexual assault multiple times, along with dozens of accusations over time. In the other case we have no other accusations over a 30 year career in the industry from a person who doesn’t do anything to get headlines (unlike Kanye or Diddy) outside of make music. That doesn’t mean the other person hasn’t done bad things, but we know of absolutely no other instances. The person you’re replying to said they wouldn’t be surprised that the guy who admitted on tape of sexually assaulting women had raped a woman, and you’re complaining that they are hesitant to condemn a person of something extremely heinous with no evidence or previous examples of bad behavior?
I didn’t say he probably did it. I said I wouldn’t be surprised. I said I don’t know the facts.
You could literally look up the facts if you wanted to take a few minutes.
I don’t want to. You could stop trying to avoid the topic at hand, but I understand that you find it very hard to ever admit to being wrong or making a mistake. You should try it some time, it actually feels good.
I’m not avoiding your victim-blaming. I’m just not agreeing with it.
Yes you are. If the allegation is false, then you’re actually the one who is victim-blaming right now. But that’s a possibility that you refuse to consider, because you seem to think it’s sexist to suspect one individual woman of making a false accusation. If it was a man filing a lawsuit that he got beat up or robbed 25 years ago at that same party, I would be equally skeptical of his claims.
Equating rape with assault and robbery is not a good look.
Child rape, no less.