• Tinidril@midwest.social
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    4 days ago

    I swear that if they catch him he should run for president from prison. I don’t know how we keep them from pulling an Epstein on him but other than that it could actually work.

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    if the guy in pennsylvania really him and he turns out to be a right wing racist piece of shit then tbh i don’t feel empathy for anyone involved in this story.

    • 🐍🩶🐢@lemmy.world
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      Dude whacked a CEO responsible for the pain, suffering, and even deaths of millions of people, all for the sake of profit. Plenty of Americans go bankrupt, suffer, or die if they have a medical issue. Healthcare is expensive and insurance companies get to dictate what medical care you receive and will do anything to not have to pay out without having to spend hours on the phone fighting for basic human decency. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to feel bad about having one less monster in the world.

      My hope is for the “status quo” to finally be disrupted enough to make a difference. Problem is Americans, and probably a good chunk of the human race, have the attention span of gerbils. Usually a week or two goes by and unless if the Media is continuing to ram it down our throats we move on to the next dopamine hit on TikTok. I might be bitter. I might be really bitter.

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        The same country just decided they had enough of the status quo and elected a billionaire to the top office.

        Americans are all over the place and mostly lack understanding.

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        Is the short attention span responsible for consistently electing people who take basic rights away from people? Bcs imo that is the real problem - not primarily the scum who do the deeds, but the idiots who keep electing them. It goes basically for most of the human race right now, but for the sake argument, let’s stick with Americans for now: WHY did they do that?

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      This dude shot and killed a health insurance CEO. After about a day, insurers stopped denying coverage arbitrarily to people. The longer-term effects have not yet been seen, but I expect more to follow.

      Edit: bunch of people think it’s wrong for me to say that we can’t perfectly predict the future.

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          There’s a lot of did ways the situation could develop positively that doesn’t involve more assassinations. Most likely, the industry pushes for legislation that disallows some of the scumier practices while allowing the bleed to continue.

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            More likely to happen:

            Captured oligarch media keeps trying horribly to spin this. Eventually, shooter gets caught. Everyone who gets their info solely from mainstream sources will think the shooter a villain. Somehow they find a jury of stooges. Dude gets slapped with the hardest sentencing imaginable but not put to death. The orphan crushing machine pitters on.

            • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Well aside from what I already mentioned, it’s possible for the manufacturing of consent against socialized medicine to be halted out of fear leading to M4A finally being adopted. It’s possible that this will lead to non-violent protests that agitate for change. Certain politicians might be able to leverage this in the near future to get a bill passed. It could happen that it’ll lead to a sudden increase in community aid and health facilities accommodating such.

              I’m not saying what is and isn’t likely to happen, all I’m saying is that we don’t know. Anyone who thinks they know what will happen is an idiot or a liar, possibly both.

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    Just got caught. Looks like his name is Luigi Mangione and he’s from Maryland.

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      Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

      I’m sure you’d have preferred France to remain a monarchy because of moral absolutism?

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        This isn’t a binary. You can oppose absolutism, revolutionary terror and the current neoliberal status quo all at the same time.

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        you are painting an oversimplified picture.

        “i am sure you’d have preferred Gandhi to pick up a gun because he was met with violence?” we can chase eachother with such oversimplifications forever.

        reality is much more complicated than such simple statements. so lets not use their inflammatory nature and focus on the actual problem. which, in that case seems, that people feel disbanded by sociaty to such a degree.

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          The point is that the CEO wasn’t in jail for murder, was he?

          What other options his victims had?

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            the ceo is just the effect, not the cause. the us laws allow such bullshit and do not protect the weak (at all). what this one ceo did was, like what many other ceo’s do, immoral but legal. you cant jail someone for legal stuff.

            change the system and force them to adhere to modern moral standards. if they try to pull some bs now, it is quite easy to lock them away.

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              I just want to add to the conversation and bring forward the fact that health insurance corporations give millions to both parties during election cycles and continuously lobby for a system that allows them to do what they are currently doing.

              The people in the government aren’t just writing laws that allow health insurance companies to do whatever they want for shits and giggles. They’re convinced. Either by pressure campaigns done by their lobbyists or they just straight up use bribes. It’s seriously fucked up, and when I think corruption can’t get worse I learn something new and find out it already is far worse than I ever imagined.

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              What the OP said means literally that if mass murdering people is legal, people will inevitably murder whoever makes the law and helps on that mass murdering. (What is not a universal law, but as sociology predictions go, is quite reliable.)

              It’s not a hard concept to understand. Also, it has a very distant relation to morality or legality.

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          I agree, that was (supposed to be) my point, too. ‘Murder is wrong in every case, no matter the context’ is too black and white, and just sitting on a high horse and preaching won’t remedy the underlying situation. The trolley problem exists for a reason. The French revolution was supposed to be the extreme counter example to disprove OP’s stance, since most people will look at the French revolution as justified and necessary, but murder was very much part of it.

          The ‘violent revolution inevitable’ quote was meant to show that it’s still a last resort, but alas, we’re apparently approaching that point.

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        That’s the logical conclusion to draw when someone is criticizing the celebration of a vigilante murderer.

        No, I think we need more people like him. Much more. I’m sure that’s a wonderful world to live in.