• @DjMeas@lemm.ee
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    I still wear a mask when going out to stores because I’m immunocompromised due to a kidney transplant. It’s ultimately up to me to protect myself from others but what bothers me most lately are people who either laugh or think I’m stupid for still wearing a mask. Some even go as far as to call me out and shame me for it. Can people just mind their own business? I’m not trying to get them to wear a mask so why are they so fixated on me taking mine off?

    • @library_napper@monyet.cc
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      I still wear a mask because I stand in soldiartiy with folks like you.

      Not only do I want to prevent the spread of the disease that could kill immune compromised folks like yourself, but it also helps normalize mask wearing.

    • Blake [he/him]
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      9110 months ago

      Genuinely, I think it’s probably because they feel a little guilty when they see you wearing one, and that’s uncomfortable for people, so they respond by taking it out on you.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        4410 months ago

        A while lot of liberalism and liberal brainworms involves feeling uncomfortable about someone else caring too much in a way that isn’t convenient for treat consumption.

        • @phej@reddthat.com
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          “feeling uncomfortable about someone else” that’s what fascism is dear. Conservatives so are so uncomfortable about what people have in their pants and what they do with it that they want to ban people from talking about transgender and sexuality topics

      • @Piers@beehaw.org
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        210 months ago

        Yeah, you’re probably right. They see someone wearing a mask, they feel bad, they decide the person wearing the mask made them feel bad.

    • Polar
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      Same. I never stopped wearing a mask because I’m immunocompromised from my lung transplant. People call me names all the time. Even here on Lemmy.

    • RBG
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      To distract themselves from their own problems.

    • @Shortstack@reddthat.com
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      This is why I started exclusively wearing kn95s because it became clear after a time that people simply don’t give a shit about anyone except themselves, they don’t care if you or I get covid and die.

      So I stopped pretending like I’m doing my part since we all know surgicals and cloth masks are only truly effective if everyone else is wearing them. They know too but choose to fuck us anyway. So fuck them too and protect yourself first. Wear your p100 respirator with the exhaust vents that filter nothing for extra vindictive points

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      It’s real bad. Fun fact: I am very big, and I’ve worn straight up gas masks at some points during the pandemic, and no one has ever said anything to me. Plague rats are real brave as long as they’re pretty confidant there won’t be consequences. It’s gross.

    • @LucidNightmare@lemm.ee
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      Honestly, I am not immunocompromised and I still wear a mask because I haven’t gotten sick since the pandemic started, and it even helps my sinus’ when I’m cleaning the house. I’ve never been one to worry about what someone thinks of me, so I’m sorry if this comes off as tone deaf, but fuck ‘em. Why should you care about what they think about you? When was the last time you thought about that person who was doing something you thought was strange in the local mart? I will assume not until I just made you think about them. Live your life as safely as you want. For every moron out there trying to make fun of you (they can try, but ultimately they themselves just look foolish and stupid) there are more like me and the others who wear masks alongside you. Stay safe and have a good rest of your day!

      • macabrett [comrade/them, any]
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        it even helps my sinus’ when I’m cleaning the house.

        One of the best parts about having a bunch of cloth masks from early in the pandemic is they’re great for cleaning. I wear one when I clean my cats’ litterboxes every day.

        I wear N95s outside the house, but cloth masks have still proven useful.

      • @Piers@beehaw.org
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        For every moron out there trying to make fun of you (they can try, but ultimately they themselves just look foolish and stupid) there are more like me and the others who wear masks alongside you.

        That does not match my experiences. Assuming you’re happy saying so, where in the world are you that this is true? Are they accepting new residents?

    • @TheKaul@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      This is the same issue the LGBT community suffers from, as well as people of color, people with accents, etc. People always find ways to make themselves feel superior to others by pointing out something different. You choosing to wear a mask just makes those kinds of people laugh because they either 1. Feel better than you for not wearing masks or 2. They are uneducated/ignorant and follow others’ opinions without question.

      I suppose the only way to turn it back around on them would be to try scaring them by saying you have something contagious like strep throat, or worse, so they’ll shut up and leave you alone. Otherwise my only other advice would be to just do your best to not engage with these types of people.

      • @Piers@beehaw.org
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        I suppose the only way to turn it back around on them would be to try scaring them by saying you have something contagious like strep throat, or worse, so they’ll shut up and leave you alone.

        I do find that I suddenly feel like I need to clear my throat when this happens.

    • HandsomePotato
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      I work in the med/surg floor of a busy hospital, even though management has taken down mask requirements for patients and staff, I still keep mine on when I go into patients room. I’m not immunocomprised, I just don’t trust other people to tell me or the admitting staff the truth of their problems.

    • Lifted_lowered
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      I was refused service at my bank the other day for not taking off my mask when they asked. They never had a problem with me being masked up before, even when I opened the account. I went and used mobile deposit instead, but it was a really disturbing precedent. I wrote in asking about their policy and instead of a straight answer I was dodged by management.

      I don’t want to sue them or anything, I just want them to come to their senses and not prohibit me from making a deposit to my account because I don’t want to get sick.

      • @Piers@beehaw.org
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        I wrote in asking about their policy and instead of a straight answer I was dodged by management.

        I feel like over the last few years organisations in general have become far more likely to try to just brush off an issues someone raises than just cleanly and easily address them.

      • @CADmonkey@lemmy.world
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        Alternatively: “I’m hiding my face from the HillarySorosObama facial recognition cameras, if YOU want Joe Biden knowing how many zits you have that’s on you”

    • @DarkWasp@lemmy.world
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      I honestly think it’s because you’re physically reminding them that Covid still exists and it makes them deeply uncomfortable. My wife and I wear one for similar reasons and she’s been accosted a few times where as I haven’t. It’s disgusting behaviour.

    • @Piers@beehaw.org
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      The thing that bothers me more is when they seem actively annoyed to see someone in a mask. Like somehow me wearing a mask in a shared public space in order to prevent someone from dieing horribly is unfair to this rando but this rando doesn’t think that them hacking and coughing everywhere in a shared public space without a mask on is unfair to anybody.

    • @Dr_pepper_spray@lemmy.world
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      No one should shame anyone for wearing a mask. However no one should shame anyone for not wearing a mask.

      I don’t begrudge anyone for wearing a mask in solidarity or to do what they think they can to save lives, but I’m on the side of feeling like I’m taking a personal bag to the store, or recycling plastic bottles like it’s actually doing something. I personally don’t like wearing a mask, and I feel like in most cases it’s just theater to do so.

    • @Birdie@thelemmy.club
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      Someone called me a libtard under his breath, but loudly enough to make sure I heard…in a CANCER center, where many of us were having our immune systems weakened by chemo.

      You can’t fix stupid so I don’t even try. I’ve been in remission for almost two years, I’m healthy and he’s out there sucking in viruses. We both have ticking clocks, but mine is ticking much more slowly than his is.

  • macabrett [comrade/them, any]
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    I want to share my experience as a disabled person, because I think it’s very easy to simply not notice our non-existance:

    I don’t exist anymore. I’m a hermit. It’s been years since I’ve done anything in public. I go to the rheumatologist, I go to a lab to get blood tests, and once a year I get an x-ray to make sure I don’t have TB. I don’t do anything else. There’s about a two week period where being outside isn’t some unbearably high or low temperature that exacerbates my condition.

    Please care about covid. Just, please. Do it for people like me if that helps you, but mostly do it for yourself. This virus can make you like me and it’s miserable (I was sick before Covid, but Covid is known to trigger autoimmune conditions which are the primary cause of my suffering).

    • Mike
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      Covid is known to trigger autoimmune conditions

      *waves* Hi, I’m new here. Recent owner of (currently) 12 different autoimmune markers. 😭

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          Scariest part is the discovery and uncertainty of it all. "oh well if it’s scleroderma, you’re dead in 10 years. If it’s just scleroderma Ana, maybe it’s lupus. It could also be this weird ass thing that less than 1000 people in the world have. Well, I mean you have the marker, but it could also be lupus. Maybe MS. Are you still having dysphagia and have you choked on food lately? "

          Excuse me while I gently sway back and forth in the corner over here.

          And don’t get me wrong, I’m not a antivax person, like at all, I have 5 rona shots now. But if someone tries to suggest with 100% absolute certainty that either covid itself or the toll the vaccine took on me didn’t unlock an underlying autoimmune disorder, I’ll kick em. I’m not saying that the vaccine gave me an autoimmune issue. I’m saying it likely existed prior but was the catalyst.

          • silent_water [she/her]
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            I’m not in quite as bad shape but I also reacted badly to the vaccine. I get awful migraines after every shot/covid exposure lasting months and it’s become permanent since the last one. I quite literally have not had a single day free from migraines in 6 months and I’m completely intractable to every medication we’ve tried. like they’re talking about burning out various nerves in my face and neck to try and prevent them but it feels hopeless. I no longer get to have a social life and I’m struggling to keep a wfh job - I’m effectively bedridden all the time because of the side effects of migraines (dizziness, vertigo, muscle weakness, primarily), and I’ve been getting seizures for the past year.

            I wish people would just do the bare minimum to protect people like us but I’ve mostly given up. just trying to get used to my new, extremely small world.

            • @cubedsteaks@lemmy.today
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              you mentioned burning nerves in your face but have you looked into botox for migraines? they inject in the back of your neck. Or maybe doctors already suggested this for you? I understand they only use it for very severe migraines.

          • macabrett [comrade/them, any]
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            The uncertainty is awful. It took me ten years to get diagnosed with anything. I had so many doctors that thought I was just seeking pain pills. I had to beg a primary care physician to refer me to a rheumatologist. The rheumatologist guessed what I had within 5 minutes. A few blood tests, X-rays, and an MRI later and I had a diagnosis. Ten years and then someone guesses it in 5 minutes. Autoimmune diseases are weird like that.

            I’m also incredibly pro-vax, but those things knock me on my ass for days. Seems pretty common for people with autoimmune diseases.

          • starlinguk
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            My shit started about two months after having Covid. Longgg before I got vaccinated. I think some people think it’s the vaccine because problems don’t tend to start right away when you have covid. It takes a while.

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              I never tested positive for covid. I was sick once, but repeatedly tested negative across multiple brands of at home kits. My wife was sick a couple of weeks afterwards, and tested positive at the first sniffle.

              🤷🏼‍♂️

    • Aiʞawa
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      Since the beginning of the pandemic, my biggest fear hasn’t been to catch the virus, but to spread it, especially to my immunocompromised relatives. You’d have to see when I tell that to people; they look at me weirder than if I answered “yes” to their mocking “afraid of COVID?” 🙃

      • macabrett [comrade/them, any]
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        Thanks for looking out for us. I wish more people looked at it the way you do. It’s been really weird seeing headlines since 2022 that excitedly proclaim “hey its only old people and disabled people dying now!”

      • Aliveelectricwire [it/its]
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        If more people thought like you I could have a life again. I’m severely immunocompromised and COVID almost killed me when I caught it a year ago

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      100% with you. Haven’t taken my mask off in public in years, and making regular attempts to goad my friends in to putting theirs back on.

    • @neutron@thelemmy.club
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      I’m so sorry for you, man. I had to take care of my parents when covid started (they’re all fine now) and couldn’t stand the mouth breathers thinking only they and themselves mattered.

    • @mcteazy@sh.itjust.works
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      Hi there - I am also immunocompromised and have 2 exciting autoimmune diseases. I work in an office every day (actually a lab, but regardless).

      Your behaviour is not normal, and you should seek therapy so you can enjoy your life!

  • Captain Howdy
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    But fuck it, let’s all just return to the office anyways. Amirite? SMH

  • Cyclohexane
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    Our track record dealing with covid shows us that our approach was largely unsuccessful. Masking must be enforced, not suggested. This is the only effective solution.

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    The lesson I’m learning is that we should have worn masks during “flu season” all along. In crowded and poorly ventilated spaces at least. It’s a cheap and easy measure and I don’t know what the BFD is with masks.

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    I didn’t know lemmy was full of anti maskers. Wear a mask ffs. You should have kn95s or n95s. They work and prevent all sorts of illness. Even a regular mask works better than nothing. They did plenty of studies.

  • @MrShankles@reddthat.com
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    Wear a Mask. Get vaccinated. Stop spreading misinformation

    Since the anti-mask/vax comments seem to be flooding in, figured I’d make my opinion known too… as obnoxiously as I can, because apparently that’s how it’s done

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    it’s interesting to see how common it is for people in NYC to still wear them sometimes, especially when on the subway (the air is shitty, so it makes sense).

    I doubt it will be much of a problem here, except for those who always refused. yeah, it sucks, but it’s a lot better than getting sick— or dying.

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      I wear one on the subway and it also helps a lot with smells. That “car that smells like shit” is often not noticeable at all.

    • @Piers@beehaw.org
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      especially when on the subway (the air is shitty, so it makes sense).

      Man, having had easy access to some sort of mask for a long time now, I keep finding little situations where historically I’d be like “man, I wish I didn’t have to breath this shit, it can’t be good for me” where I just don’t breath those things anymore…

      I’m trying to think of good examples but the only one that comes to mind is that in the rare instance I need to use bug spray I’m always glad I have a mask I can wear in case it floats my way.

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        funny you say this… I often think, “have I been breathing this shit this whole time?” when I pull off a mask I’ve been wearing in the subway to wash it, and all this grime washes out

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            what, you don’t like the smell of garbage and rat pee?

            tourists… :P

  • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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    There was a moment in my life where I was optimistic about masks. I pictured a cyberpunk future we didn’t get sick as much and had a cool new fashion accessory we could have fun with. It is wild how capitlaism couldn’t even resist the power of covid

    • @stereofony@lemm.ee
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      From a fellow trans person: I know you mean well, but shame/ridicule is the least effective agent of change. This kind of attitude I hear not just from you but other leftist queer friends just straight up leaves a bad taste in people’s mouths and does nothing to convince folks of your cause, no matter how good your intentions are. To quote a Tshirt I once saw: Kindness is more punk rock than a middle finger.

      Collective care and justice should be rooted in compassion, not denigration and superiority complexes.

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        superiority complexes.

        TIL needing to mask for health reasons is a superiority complex.

        I’m not going to address any of the rest of your comment except to say, stop tone policing a shitpost. The point was to vent about a genuine frustration, not to convince anyone.

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          Sorry, but somewhere along the way in leftist circles, “don’t tone police me” became synonymous with “I’m allowed to be as shitty as I want to other people because of my trauma” and that’s the behavior I can’t get down with. Trauma is an explanation, not an excuse.

      • Kuori [she/her]
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        yeah we are pretty pro-bullying people who are doing shitty things over on hexbear, this isn’t going to land

          • Kuori [she/her]
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            we are of the same mind on this. frankly, i don’t care in the slightest about the feelings of people who won’t put any effort into protecting the lives of others.

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          I’m more on the “bullying bad, shaming with explanation of how to fix your behavior good” train myself, at least when the goal isn’t just to make shitheads be quiet.

          • Kuori [she/her]
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            i get you, my issue is that we’re beyond the event horizon, you know? these people have had the explanations. they don’t care, and their not caring kills innocent people. as far as i’m concerned, it’s open season on shitheads.

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        To quote a Tshirt I once saw: Kindness is more punk rock than a middle finger.

        Wow. Everything you said before this swayed me but this is such an awesome statement that I had to say thanks for expanding my vernacular.

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    This post made me realize how completely ignorant to covid I’ve become lately… I had to check the date to see if it was current or years old.