You seem to be making an idealistic argument (ie, lmao what are you saying, of people don’t have to suffer, we have the technology to stop that) whereas the person you’re responding to is making a descriptive claim about how the world currently is.
I agree completely, people don’t have to suffer. But that’s what the current world is built on. The suffering of the poor, the minorities, the illegal immigrants, visa slaves, sweatshop workers etc. Just because things doesn’t have to be this way doesn’t change the fact that things are this way and it doesn’t look like anything is going to change anytime soon.
It’s a requirement for people to suffer for others to get ahead.
It is absolutely not a requirement. It’s a very common opinion that people hold, and from what I’ve seen it tends to lead to people to end up with extreme right-wing opinions and an us-vs.-them mentality for literally every aspect of their lives, leading to racism, sexism, transphobia, etc.
Dude, it’s literally how capitalism is built. Where do you think we get our cheap oil, chocolates, clothes, iphones, rare earth minerals etc from? The wealth of the west is built upon the suffering of the third world. And as I said in my previous comment, it doesn’t look like things will change anytime soon.
You’re doing the same thing again, conflating the way things are, with the way things have to be. I don’t think it should be this way, I’m just acknowledging how the world currently looks.
People who fall into right wing views are the ones who believe the world should be unfair and you should push other people down. I think the world can and should be better but closing your eyes and pretending the horrors of capitalism doesn’t exist is just stupid and wont help you build a better world.
You seem to be making an idealistic argument (ie, lmao what are you saying, of people don’t have to suffer, we have the technology to stop that) whereas the person you’re responding to is making a descriptive claim about how the world currently is.
I agree completely, people don’t have to suffer. But that’s what the current world is built on. The suffering of the poor, the minorities, the illegal immigrants, visa slaves, sweatshop workers etc. Just because things doesn’t have to be this way doesn’t change the fact that things are this way and it doesn’t look like anything is going to change anytime soon.
I’m mostly trying to address the first part
It is absolutely not a requirement. It’s a very common opinion that people hold, and from what I’ve seen it tends to lead to people to end up with extreme right-wing opinions and an us-vs.-them mentality for literally every aspect of their lives, leading to racism, sexism, transphobia, etc.
Dude, it’s literally how capitalism is built. Where do you think we get our cheap oil, chocolates, clothes, iphones, rare earth minerals etc from? The wealth of the west is built upon the suffering of the third world. And as I said in my previous comment, it doesn’t look like things will change anytime soon.
You’re doing the same thing again, conflating the way things are, with the way things have to be. I don’t think it should be this way, I’m just acknowledging how the world currently looks.
People who fall into right wing views are the ones who believe the world should be unfair and you should push other people down. I think the world can and should be better but closing your eyes and pretending the horrors of capitalism doesn’t exist is just stupid and wont help you build a better world.