• bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net
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    8 hours ago

    Yeah you can, because this stuff affects: the disabled, elderly, pregnant women, shift workers

    Where am I going to sit waiting for the subway home at 645AM? Am I going to stand and wobble next to the incoming trains? I just worked a 14 hour shift! There aren’t any barriers between the tracks and people!

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      7 hours ago

      Alright, there’s been some decent back and forth so I’ll give it one more go as it still seems like my point is being misconstrued:

      Yeah you can, because this stuff affects: the disabled, elderly, pregnant women, shift workers

      Again, anger directed towards the wrong people. The bench was already not useable due to “misuse”, so removing it doesn’t change that. What it does though is reduces the other associated issues that accompany the “misuse”. Those removing it would prefer the bench or whatever was still there (it was installed for a purpose originally after all), but it becomes unsustainable so they go with the less worse option.

      In my area it’s pubic washrooms becoming closed, or being for customers only and you need to get the key from staff. It sucks, but you can’t get mad at the staff or facility not wanting or being able to deal with the problems they’ve been having. Telling them they need to tackle the underlying systemic issues and getting angry at them for locking the door is just directing anger towards secondary victims on behalf of the primary ones.

      These people, these spaces, are victims too. It’s not their fault it’s attractive for “misuse”, just like it’s not the their fault there are people who are desperate enough to need it, or the fault of desperate people behaving desperately. Get angry at the lack of programs or aid or other systems to help people, don’t get mad at the people who end up having to deal with the brunt of the consequences of these policies. They’re on the front lines but don’t want to be, so it’s callous to be angry with them for trying to get out of the cross fire.

      • bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net
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        5 hours ago

        I’m not angry with anybody. It’s their responsibility and I’m pointing that out.

        The bench was already not useable due to “misuse”, so removing it doesn’t change that.

        Not 100% of the time. If you think it was a permanent encampment spot you will have to cite your sources.

        customers only and you need to get the key from staff.

        This isn’t a business, it’s public transport being run by a government.

        THE CITY runs the subway. The city needs to do things, I’ve said as much in another comment. Public spaces serving the public less, doesn’t make any sense.