I’m surprised that an outspoken anti-labour anti-union employer would be abusive towards their employees. Truly astonishing.
I hope she’s doing better now, and working someplace that appreciates her.
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Damn this is catastrophic. I’m not sure how you come back from the last few days
this should be a separate post or something, lots of new stuff was added.
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Sounds like her immediate manager really hated her. Repeatedly ignored her requests, told her to figure things out on her own then reported her to upper management for doing what he told her to do.
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This is why I’m so glad that there are open union campaigns occurring at my tech company. It has promoted a speak out culture where people say something when they see a problem. Management won’t listen to us, but at least we’re there for each other and empathize even if we don’t sympathize. Coworkers have told me that the support that we provide makes them feel validated, even if the law does not agree with our assertions.
Her manager was a piece of shit who didn’t know how to treat other people properly and who had zero respect for her and (reading between the lines) didn’t have the slightest grasp of misogyny in the workplace (or actively perpetuated it) and had no idea how to manage anyone effectively.
They should’ve been fired the second or third time they utterly failed her. But when upper management are also douchebags they see nothing wrong and even encourage that bullshit.
Work for a decent place for a few years and you see the stark contrast very clearly…
I don’t know why, but somehow I can really picture James saying to Madison “calm your tits!” with his annoying smirk.
So wait… LTT have an OnlyFans account??
Don’t think so any more, they had one as an April fools (LinusSexTips) and it stuck around for a while for the memes. But I imagine there were lots of horrible things sent to that account
Thanks I was looking for something like this.
It’s funny how all the shithole places to work where top management are psychopaths who abuse their employees and tolerate (or encourage or perform) sexual assault and encourage and model deeply toxic work interactions also are companies that chase dollars over everything including truth, quality, ethics, and proper basic respect for customers (viewers).
The world would be so much better if these types of fucked up toxic people weren’t here or at least were shunned and always failed downwards.
Linus has always struck me as fake as FUCK. He acts like every manager I’ve ever had that completely changes their attitude when behind closed doors. He also seems like his favorite thing in the world is one more penny in his bank account.
Whenever he speaks about the business side of things, work conditions or unions you can feel it, he’s a soul crusher. Heck he mentioned something along the line of “Although we don’t necessarily respect labor laws all the time, we know we’ve got good work conditions and if an employee wants to start talking labor laws… Well, two can play this game.”
It’s so fucking wild these guys don’t hear how fucked up what they say sounds.
can you ever had people working under you?
I never felt the need to threaten my colleagues who wanted to see their rights respected and I never felt the need to not respect labor laws.
Is that why you were asking?
You didn’t answer so no
I think my answer made it clear that yes, but I guess that if you’re asking stupid questions then I must not expect you to be able to deduce things.
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Reading about the situation in general as they unfold makes me more and more disappointed with LTT.
Yeah, it feels like a lot is breaking lose right now, it’s crazy honestly
I applaud her for coming out with this at this time, maximizing the scrutiny they’ll have about it. Assuming all of it is true (which I’m inclined to believe, aside from the observations), this is very fucked up to the point I don’t even know what kind of resolution I want, aside from hopes of Madison being able to be at peace instead of being harassed by terminally online people.
After I came forward about being assaulted, Someone accused Linus of inappropriate conduct on twitter.
He came over to my corner and started BERATING HER. Calling her insane, mentally ill, an attention seeker, and just digging into this poor woman who had felt wronged by him.
o.0 what a hell hole. company is run by woman haters. zero respect for women.
… I suppose the only way to move forward is to see how LMG/LTT responds… Untill then, I’ve halted all FP subscriptions and unsubbed from all channels. Especially considering the response to GN’s piece.
If it’s true that all they care about is their bottom line, unsubbing is the best thing you can do.
Sadly Idk how many subs they’re gonna lose due to both this and the GN piece. It might not be enough to send a strong enough message.
Halting all payments is the best thing you can do. But subscribe count hasn’t really mattered for a long time now. Not a bad thing to unsubscribe but just wanted to point out it’s not the best thing you can do.
View count is what matters so simply stop watching, less watchers means less ad revenue
The only response that’s appropriate and sufficient is firing everyone who has contributed to this unethical, actively hostile environment including the CEO and Linus himself, and instituting zero tolerance ethics and inclusion policies and an ethics group to stamp this toxic culture into dust. Nothing short of that will have any effect.
Because these problems start and end at the top of the org.
This is terrible. I hope LTT is done for and this can be reckoned with. Also, some of this might be better turned into a criminal case.
That’s bad. I could look over the idea that the thing with billet was just stupid mistake after stupid mistake leading to a bad outcome. I saw the weird ways Linus expresses himself in his forum post and hoped he would address it in a video rather than WAN show. I thought he might do right by us, learn from it and continue to strive to being better. But this goes way too far. I boight the Screwdriver and I was going to spend lots of money on the store once the cable management system is out. That’s not going to happen anymore. I’m really disappointed.
Seeing all these groupie tech bros in the comments bending over backwards to justify what LTT has done makes me understand why she was afraid to come forward.
I already had dwindling respect for the company, now it’s zero, it’s disgraceful and a horrible asset to the tech world
Wow, that really sounds like a horribly toxic experience :(
The pressure and huge workload is not suprising they have been pretty clear about that and that was highlighed in their own video with employees interviews.
The contract part if true, is infuriating and a big deal. That’s a harsh lesson to learn, but always sign a contract before moving for a job.
“inappropriatary grabbed multiple times in the office, amongst other issues” makes some harsh implications but doesn’t really explain anything. If the recounting is accurate, press charges. I’m sure at this point some law firm would take the case pro bono.
The pressure and huge workload is not suprising they have been pretty clear about that and that was highlighed in their own video with employees interviews.
That’s still a pretty bad thing, especially when it causes stress for employees and innacuraccies.
That’s a harsh lesson to learn, but always sign a contract before moving for a job.
That’s a completely pointless thing to say.
“inappropriatary grabbed multiple times in the office, amongst other issues” makes some harsh implications but doesn’t really explain anything. If the recounting is accurate, press charges.
That generally doesn’t work for that type of aggression.
I’m sure at this point some law firm would take the case pro bono.
Because that’s a thing that happens often.
This woman also gouged her own leg open. Obviously I could be wrong here, but based on my experience with people like this there’s a reasonable chance she’s a bit unstable and that some of these claims should be taken with a grain of salt. Or at least require some further corroboration or proof.
If you remove the observations and limit yourself to the events in her telling of the events, I feel like it’s enough to believe her mental health was rightfully deteriorated by the workplace.
Unless you’re insinuating you believe it’s made up, which imo is a bad take, a possibility yes but dismissive as hell.
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The pressure and huge workload is not suprising they have been pretty clear about that and that was highlighed in their own video with employees interviews.
That’s still a pretty bad thing, especially when it causes stress for employees and innacuraccies.
Nowhere did I say that it was a good thing. It’s just a reality not something new. Someone who was looking at applying to the company should do their research when half their work hours are publically available.
That’s a harsh lesson to learn, but always sign a contract before moving for a job.
That’s a completely pointless thing to say.
That’s a life advice. Take it or leave it.
“inappropriatary grabbed multiple times in the office, amongst other issues” makes some harsh implications but doesn’t really explain anything. If the recounting is accurate, press charges.
That generally doesn’t work for that type of aggression.
Sure it does. Grabbing = touching. But like I said, the post made some implications, but haven’t explained anything so it’s all speculation based on that one sentence.
What is a sexual assault?
A sexual assault is any sexual contact that you do not consent to. This includes unwanted kissing, touching, penetration or attempted penetration. It may happen once or multiple times, and just because you agreed to sexual contact in the past does not mean you consent to it every time. You can be sexually assaulted by a stranger, a friend, a family member, or your relationship partner.Source: https://vpd.ca/report-a-crime/sex-crime/
I’m sure at this point some law firm would take the case pro bono.
Because that’s a thing that happens often.
It’s quite common with high profile cases, since it’s free marketing.
Surely you must understand how incredibly insensitive is to dismiss someone saying they got grabbed/ touched because they didn’t give us the details down to the nitty-gritty.
I’m all for encouraging victims to press charges if they think there’s basis to do so. But we, the public, aren’t owed any more information than what the victim wants to share. After all, we are not a court.
I didn’t dismiss the accusation. But I asked for more information, since it was made publically. And I said that the proper venue for that is reporting it as a crime. Because on the flip side it’s also incredibly damaging to trust everything someone says without some verification. People lie.
You didn’t dismiss the accusation, yet you demanded more information, which again, we are not owed.
It’s also incredibly damaging to trust everything someone says without some verification.
The implication being that’s what I’m arguing? I don’t know you go from “It’s incredibly insensitive to treat sexual assault claims like any other subject and ask victims for details and verification, you should understand how these tactics have historically been used to intimidate and silence women victims of sexual assault and abuse”
To “Believe any and all claims made by supposed victims like some kind of religious dogma”.
That’s quite a leap. If you’re not going for a flimsy reductio ad absurdum, you should know (although I feel you already know) no one in this thread is arguing in favor of believing any and all claims of SA like a proof of faith.
People lie.
People do lie. The implication that women lie about SA is statistically false and has historically been a key tool of the patriarchy in silencing women.
You didn’t dismiss the accusation, yet you demanded more information, which again, we are not owed.
I didn’t ask for more information, I just cautioned others about believing it blindly based on one sentence.
Here is my comment:
“inappropriatary grabbed multiple times in the office, amongst other issues” makes some harsh implications but doesn’t really explain anything. If the recounting is accurate, press charges. I’m sure at this point some law firm would take the case pro bono.
no one in this thread is arguing in favor of believing any and all claims of SA like a proof of faith.
Maybe not anymore but that was defintely the case during the height of #metoo movement. Depp v. Heard case really highlighted that sometimes accusers are the abusers and trusting blindly can hurt just as much as not trusting at all.
If someone decides to make a public accusation, they should not be surprised that someone asks for more than their word for it. And if they don’t want to answer those questions the proper venue is reporting a crime and not talking about it publically.
free marketing
ah, they’re getting paid in exposure, nice! so they too can thank Linus for giving them a platform
Please read the context again… I was talking about the law firm.
Yeah because law firms generally chase exposure. /S
That’s literally part of a job description for the partners at the law firms.
… I’m shocked.
I’m honestly, utterly shocked.
I cannot imagine that this is how LTT is from the inside. I still don’t believe this. Wow.
I’m still hoping that all of this is just a HUGE misunderstanding that came about.
I even internally am still justifying it as her just maybe pouncing on this opportunity, but it doesn’t make sense why she hasn’t before.
Ah man, fuck… what the hell, man…
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.
I was always pretty certain Linus was full of shit, but I never suspected this!
I’ll be honest, I actually relate to Linus’ troubles as someone who has tried to manage a team before. And as a result, I never really felt he was “full of shit”, but rather just way over his head with the CEO stuff.
I understood that LMG is his baby and he wanted to make sure it’s all working like he envisioned… But I feel like when you reach a particular level, you just need to reassess your priorities as well as your role to ensure the organisation is functioning properly.
And that’s why I was actually pretty happy to hear him step down. Vision Officer is perfect so that he can float ideas and provide his input for his vision, while making sure that there’s someone else to refine the remaining details.
His impulsive responses are terrible, tho. And that’s something that he SHOULD have vetted before he says anything. If he didn’t have time or if it’s a very recent incident, DON’T say anything. Let Luke take care of it or just stay silent.
But now with this from Madison, I’m kinda shocked NGL. As I said before, I still REALLY wish this was just a misunderstanding or bad luck or whatever else, but if this is how it is inside, I’ll never be able to see another LTT video…
I can’t get over the idea that if LMG is really this bad, other people would have gone public by now. Not everyone is afraid of Linus or his influence.
I’m not discounting what Madison said, only saying that it’s probably not the norm.
I think ex employee colton confirmed it on twitter.
Also maybe just me. But nothing is about linus directly. It is always “upper management” and maybe that upper management person is super psychotic and manipulated linus into believing nothing happened (I know how easy that can happen). Still doesn’t excuse him but that means there can be a reformation.
She also talks about wanting it to turn out well for her old colleagues. Meaning she still has hope, what also means linus can’t be the worst.
IKR. I’m so so so so confused.
Sad story. I hope getting it off your chest has helped, bottling things up is never good.
I’ve been a fan of the LTT crew for years and watched Linus evolve, or rather, succumb to the pressure he was never able to cope with, change him. The massive responsibility for the business he has created and all those people’s jobs obviously weighs heavy on him. He needs to fully step back, be proud of what LTT is, and let experienced management take over. I’m hoping the new CEO will maker the right changes but this drama is very bed timing.
Edit: This place reminds me a bit of the Yogscast dramas with individuals doing things they shouldn’t, while also making the place a bit toxic. They seem to have turned that shit around. I hope LTT can do the same.
He needs to be in videos but get out of his managerial position, which won’t happen.
He’s already recently no longer the CEO, I’ve unsubscribed and cancelled my floatplane. Waiting to see how this is addressed further but it’s not looking good.
I just want to say to the kids at home, you can do anything you want to do in life… because Linus gave you that platform.
