I just watched steves response. It actually made me less ‘on his side’. Sure you dont have to give him a heads up, but you have a personal relationship with the guy even if its just on a peer / youtube colleague level. He went to the roast for fucks sake. So you’e met the guy and were presumably friendly.
It’s as pedantic to say “I didnt have to contact him first” as it is to say “we auctioned not sold!” It seems like really bad form and it almost seems in bad faith and makes his original, valid criticisms, feel like a hit piece.
this isn’t nvidia or it’s fucking Linus.
I also didn’t get the impression that linus’s ltt forum post was his official response/action plan. And for Steve to say “whatever they say or do now we wont believe them” seems incredibly immature and unprofessional.
Theyve grown too fast and Linus knows it. They’ve conceded as much and theyve taken steps to address it- hiring a senior manager for the lab and a new CEO. Those are pretty significant.
Steve’s response video was a bit self-righteous and absolutely the behavior of a teenage PC gamer.
I agree with Steve on this one though. It’s not like lmg is a small company anymore. It would be like Steve contacting a buddy at gigabyte before putting out a piece on them.
No they really aren’t. It’s not like Nvidia or and or gigabyte and does that excuse it? Steve knows Linus. They may not have been BFFs but they are friends and colleagues and a heads up in the right thing to do here. I think that’s a valid criticism and Steve’s response to that is shitty “I didn’t have to” semantics and the “they are a big company. We are small. We fight big guy!” undertones make his original video seem more “targeted” to begin with–and might explain why he didn’t reach out.
You impugned their integrity, ethics, and called them out. If I was about to call out a peer publicly, even if I wasn’t going to change anything or ask them for a comment, I’d give them a heads up. It’s just really poor form and Linus as done so much for this community I think he deserved a “heads-up”, “I’m about to call out your bad reviews and the billet situation. I didn’t want the first you hear of it to be from the community. If you want to respond afterwards let me know”
I agree with most of GN’s points, but this part really rubbed me the wrong way. I think GN really should have contacted Linus, to get his thoughts and clear up misunderstandings. When they do it like this it feels disingenuous, if you really care about the consumer then it’s in your best interest to help LTT change, not to try and deal as hard a blow as possible. It feels like they’re just want them to take the punch as hard as possible.
But I still can’t believe how bad LTT’s behaviour was when it comes to Billet labs. The rewiew was bad, but I could get over it, but to sell their best fucking prototype, that’s atrocious. It’s not just the material and time cost of building it, it’s a giant opportunity cost. It’s completely unacceptable.
I just watched steves response. It actually made me less ‘on his side’. Sure you dont have to give him a heads up, but you have a personal relationship with the guy even if its just on a peer / youtube colleague level. He went to the roast for fucks sake. So you’e met the guy and were presumably friendly.
It’s as pedantic to say “I didnt have to contact him first” as it is to say “we auctioned not sold!” It seems like really bad form and it almost seems in bad faith and makes his original, valid criticisms, feel like a hit piece.
this isn’t nvidia or it’s fucking Linus.
I also didn’t get the impression that linus’s ltt forum post was his official response/action plan. And for Steve to say “whatever they say or do now we wont believe them” seems incredibly immature and unprofessional.
Theyve grown too fast and Linus knows it. They’ve conceded as much and theyve taken steps to address it- hiring a senior manager for the lab and a new CEO. Those are pretty significant.
Steve’s response video was a bit self-righteous and absolutely the behavior of a teenage PC gamer.
I agree with Steve on this one though. It’s not like lmg is a small company anymore. It would be like Steve contacting a buddy at gigabyte before putting out a piece on them.
Ltt is a small company, roughly 100 people is nothing
Think of their profits & business type. Employees count doesn’t mean much here. They are big.
Sure they are big if you compare it tona smaller channel like GN, but businesses no not really
No they really aren’t. It’s not like Nvidia or and or gigabyte and does that excuse it? Steve knows Linus. They may not have been BFFs but they are friends and colleagues and a heads up in the right thing to do here. I think that’s a valid criticism and Steve’s response to that is shitty “I didn’t have to” semantics and the “they are a big company. We are small. We fight big guy!” undertones make his original video seem more “targeted” to begin with–and might explain why he didn’t reach out.
You impugned their integrity, ethics, and called them out. If I was about to call out a peer publicly, even if I wasn’t going to change anything or ask them for a comment, I’d give them a heads up. It’s just really poor form and Linus as done so much for this community I think he deserved a “heads-up”, “I’m about to call out your bad reviews and the billet situation. I didn’t want the first you hear of it to be from the community. If you want to respond afterwards let me know”
valve has 1100 employees and is valued at 7.7 billion, ltt has 100 and got a 100 mil offer. per capita they’re bigger than valve.
Valve is still substantially larger per capita almost by a factor of 10. (by your numbers)
7.7 bil / 1100 = 7 million per employee
100 mil / 100 = 1 million per employee
Still, LTT is a sizeable company now both in the scope of their reach (millions watch them every day) and in the amount of people they employ.
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I think the way LTT tore into Billet Labs was the reason for the tear down. GN gave LTT as much respect as LTT gave to Billet Labs.
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I agree with most of GN’s points, but this part really rubbed me the wrong way. I think GN really should have contacted Linus, to get his thoughts and clear up misunderstandings. When they do it like this it feels disingenuous, if you really care about the consumer then it’s in your best interest to help LTT change, not to try and deal as hard a blow as possible. It feels like they’re just want them to take the punch as hard as possible.
But I still can’t believe how bad LTT’s behaviour was when it comes to Billet labs. The rewiew was bad, but I could get over it, but to sell their best fucking prototype, that’s atrocious. It’s not just the material and time cost of building it, it’s a giant opportunity cost. It’s completely unacceptable.