• Storksforlegs@beehaw.org
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    Well when you get cars designed by people who think safety regulation can be ignored, this is what you get.

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      The fact that Elon is going to help Trump gut all of our federal agencies makes me sick to my stomach. Trump winning the election is like a terrible nightmare that I can’t wake up from.

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      Teslas are among the safest cars on the road by all metrics. It’s just that they get the most press out of all EVs, because they are 1) sort of a poster child for electric vehicles due to how influential the Model S was and 2) due to that idiot at the helm of the company receiving constant attention from the press.

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    The title made it sound like a full lock-in. But one survived.

    Harper grabbed a bar from his truck and handed it to another bystander, who managed to break the back window and pull the young woman to safety.

    Tesla has faced criticism in the past for the design of its manual release levers, which are considered poorly designed and unintuitively placed.

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      Tesla has faced criticism in the past for the design of its manual release levers, which are considered poorly designed and unintuitively placed

      Calling it poorly designed is a massive understatement. The manual release is a wire that is hidden behind a hidden panel. A guy made a video showing how to do it and he struggled to do it despite having practiced a few times in advance. The chance of pulling it off while the car was on fire would be very, very low

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        I have a friend who won’t put his kids in the back of his Tesla because of this.

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      Idk what the exact definition of a full lock in is, but if you have to break a window to get someone out I’d think it still qualifies since the locks were all engaged.

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    Elmo is too cheap to give his customers real door handles when it can be done in software.

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      it aint just tesla. i was at a wedding this week and one of my pals rented an electric Ford. no regular door handles, no climate or radio control buttons. we ended up roasting it the whole time. the future is now! he paid $40 to get 200 miles of charge and it only took 90 minutes. all the buttons were screens and the levers were buttons or knobs! seriously stupid

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        The touch pad control shit just sends me “yah, let’s get rid of these cheap, easily manufactured and implemented dials and knobs that can be easily operated without looking and replace them with an expensive touch screen that you need to look away from the road to use, that’s truly the way of the future; Unnecessarily expensive, more difficult to use, and reliant on software that will probably get bricked in 3 years when the executives lay off the team maintaining it so they can give them selves a pay raise.”

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          also, the disrespect for software that powers the fucking touchscreen is insane (as a non-biased software developer)

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            It often feels like the software is an afterthought and not given the time and resources it needs to work properly. Like, they slap the screen in to seem tech forward or to stream line dash design, and then dump the problems this creates on to software devs.

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          You’ve got the motive back to front.

          yah, let’s get rid of these cheap, easily manufactured and implemented dials and knobs

          In modern cars those buttons are an input to a body computer which then sends commands over the vehicle data bus to another module that performs the appropriate function. The touchscreen option is much cheaper once you have more than a few buttons to deal with.

          Buttons have different physical shapes, the little decal for the button on each one has to be printed and put on top, each one needs to be connected to power, each one needs to be slotted into the dash somewhere , each one needs to be backlit so you can use it at night, and the signal for each one has to be routed somewhere through increasingly bulky harnesses, etc etc.

          A touchscreen sits on the vehicle data bus and with a bit of software, sends whatever command is needed.

          Is it a great user experience to press fiddly buttons on a touchscreen while driving down a bumpy road? Fuck no. But it is definitely cheaper and less complicated for the manufacturer.

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            A touch screen is more expensive than an injection molded plastic knob, even if the actual interfacing of the controls is easier.

            I take the point that it’s simpler to integrate with how many buttons, dials and controls newer cars have, but I think the proliferation of those bits is part of the same issue. A lot of stuff is being added not because people find use in these things but because companies feel they need to add them to appear like they’re tech forward.

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              A plastic nob is cheaper than a touchscreen, yes. But if you’ve already got a touchscreen as part of the design anyway (for things like satnav or car maintenance data), it’s cheaper to not include any other buttons or inputs and to bundle them all up into one interface.

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                See that’s the thing, you don’t need a touch screen for those things, or even a screen. Everyone has a phone for sat nav, (you shouldn’t be looking at your phone while driving but you also shouldn’t be looking at a screen on the console while driving). And for maintenance stuff a light up an LED is enough.

                I think in general there’s just been a proliferation of unnecessary features and with it has gone the affordable new car.

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                  The screen is required for the FMVSS standard mandating rear view cameras. The jump in part price from that to touch is less than the amount saved by not having to tool up all the knobs and buttons, paying someone to run wires for all of them, paying someone to assemble all of the fiddly bits, and paying someone to install them in addition to the cost of already installing the screen that would eliminate all the other cost if it were the only input.

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    This raises serious concerns about Tesla’s safety features, especially the door mechanisms in emergencies. Hope this leads to improvements in vehicle design and safety protocols.