• UsernameHere@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    If protestors are protesting Harris by giving power to someone who will commit more genocide then are they acting in good faith? Of course not. That was an excuse used by bad faith actors to trick the gullible into giving Trump power. And you’re just repeating the talking points that the left was tricked with while trying to claim the left didn’t do it, it was just bots.

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      You’re the one baselessly claiming that the left protested by not voting, the protests I spoke of were those where people came out in the streets, because those actually happened. Nothing in the article or my comments pointed to people on the left not wanting to vote. Also, you seem to have missed the part where regular people disliked the genocide.

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        7 days ago

        This was from the article:

        “Democrats Ignored Gaza and Brought Down Their Party.”

        “Israel’s slaughter and starvation of Palestinians — funded by U.S. taxpayers and live-streamed on social media,” according to Beinart, has “triggered one of the greatest surges in progressive activism in a generation”.

        “Brought down their party” indicates the progressive activism was related to voting. Not protesting in the streets.

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          “Democrats Ignored Gaza and Brought Down Their Party” indicates nothing about activism and everything about Democrats doing unpopular stuff that costed them elections. The activism, all along, was focused on making Biden/Harris do something in Gaza, not voting them out, as voting them out wouldn’t make any sense neither for the left, nor for Palestinians. The idea that it would, and that the protests intended to do that is delusional, it doesn’t even hint at having any connection with reality, pushing things in that direction would do nothing to achieve the aims activists had. You mixing up bot activity on lemmy with leftists protesting and also canvasing on the streets make no sense, and your only point of connection is the fact that those bots posted on lemmy.ml. You even have a straight forward article that says Dems lost the elections because they refused to do anything with Gaza (a disputable position at the very least, but nevermind), which obviously means that general electorate was less willing to vote for them and that resulted in less votes, and you conclude from that that leftists specifically protested the genocide by not voting. You ignore the obvious and substitute it for the unsubstantiated absurd.

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            You’re contradicting yourself:

            You’re the one baselessly claiming that the left protested by not voting

            “Democrats Ignored Gaza and Brought Down Their Party” indicates nothing about activism and everything about Democrats doing unpopular stuff that costed them elections.

            You claim that it is baseless to say the left protested the Gaza situation by not voting. Then you say the Gaza situation was unpopular and costed dems the election.

            voting them out wouldn’t make any sense neither for the left, nor for Palestinians. The idea that it would, and that the protests intended to do that is delusional, it doesn’t even hint at having any connection with reality, pushing things in that direction would do nothing to achieve the aims activists had.

            To pretend that protesting Gaza in a way that blames democrats for Netanyahu’s actions has no impact on the popularity of a Democratic candidate and thus results in them losing an election is to contradict this statement:

            “Democrats Ignored Gaza and Brought Down Their Party” indicates nothing about activism and everything about Democrats doing unpopular stuff that costed them elections.

            You mixing up bot activity on lemmy with leftists protesting and also canvasing on the streets make no sense, and your only point of connection is the fact that those bots posted on lemmy.ml.

            The point of connection is the talking points/arguments against Biden/Harris. Placing blame on them for the actions of Netanyahu and pretending it is acceptable to let Iran threaten our national security.

            Dems lost the elections because they refused to do anything with Gaza (a disputable position at the very least, but nevermind), which obviously means that general electorate was less willing to vote for them and that resulted in less votes

            It wasn’t the general electorate that was protesting Gaza. It was the leftists.

            You ignore the obvious and substitute it for the unsubstantiated absurd.

            You’ve substantiated what I’ve said every time you’ve contradicted yourself.