If ovulating folk in ‘western’ countries are to adopt 4b, you are right, we do need to update it to fit our understanding of feminism for it to be politically viable as a movement here.
Trans men need to be included as ovulating folk at risk of pregnancy and trans women need to be included as women who are not at risk of pregnancy. (The pre-op rant you basically covered so I’m not going to rewrite again it in my own words.)
I think this about covers the updating tbh:
1: Don’t fuck Conservatives.
2: Don’t have relationships with Conservatives.
3: Don’t have relationships or encounters where PiV sex could impregnate you.
4: Spousal rape happens more often than you think, so just don’t be in a relationship where pregnancy is possible.
5: Don’t reproduce.
6: Don’t be a bigot.
3 and 4 could probably do with more eloquent wording as they could potentially be misconstrued in bigoty ways, but I think that about covers it.
Then again, I’m not someone who has an easy time understanding what needs to be communicated to get a point across efficiently for most people to be able to understand it, so this really is basically just another rant on the internet at this point. And not to mention I’m waaay too autistic and traumatised to be political active beyond this anymore, idk, hopefully others are coming to the same conclusions and can spread the word I suppose.
Yeah, you put it perfectly. Sorry that I was so standoffish as well '-. Good point on the spousal rape, I didn’t consider it enough. Someone who appears perfectly civil, progressive and feminist might turn out to be a rapist too, and if pregnancy is a possibility, going off impressions alone is a risk you can’t take. Thanks for raising that point! And have a nice day c:
I get you. Sorry for being terse.
If ovulating folk in ‘western’ countries are to adopt 4b, you are right, we do need to update it to fit our understanding of feminism for it to be politically viable as a movement here.
Trans men need to be included as ovulating folk at risk of pregnancy and trans women need to be included as women who are not at risk of pregnancy. (The pre-op rant you basically covered so I’m not going to rewrite again it in my own words.)
I think this about covers the updating tbh:
1: Don’t fuck Conservatives.
2: Don’t have relationships with Conservatives.
3: Don’t have relationships or encounters where PiV sex could impregnate you.
4: Spousal rape happens more often than you think, so just don’t be in a relationship where pregnancy is possible.
5: Don’t reproduce.
6: Don’t be a bigot.
3 and 4 could probably do with more eloquent wording as they could potentially be misconstrued in bigoty ways, but I think that about covers it.
Then again, I’m not someone who has an easy time understanding what needs to be communicated to get a point across efficiently for most people to be able to understand it, so this really is basically just another rant on the internet at this point. And not to mention I’m waaay too autistic and traumatised to be political active beyond this anymore, idk, hopefully others are coming to the same conclusions and can spread the word I suppose.
Yeah, you put it perfectly. Sorry that I was so standoffish as well '-. Good point on the spousal rape, I didn’t consider it enough. Someone who appears perfectly civil, progressive and feminist might turn out to be a rapist too, and if pregnancy is a possibility, going off impressions alone is a risk you can’t take. Thanks for raising that point! And have a nice day c: