The people in cities and in blue states made this economic turn around happen. Trump does not deserve the credit he will claim. Burn it down.
Edit: If you leave this thread learning anything please let it be this one thing. Organic political movement isn’t schemed up in a board room or carefully planned and executed every step of the way. It starts inside of you and people like you and you lend your support not knowing the outcome but believing in the cause. If it’s not here, it’s not here. I don’t mean to supply you with fuel needed but only the spark to ignite flame waiting to be ignited.
I’m out though.
My plan is to stop participating in the economy as much as I can. Only the basic necessities now. The fun times are over. Let’s help crash the Trump economy.
a lot of us have been ‘existing’ on ‘only the basic necessities’ for years
That’s true. I guess I sounded privileged there.
Maybe to some, but that doesn’t minimize your stake in anything. We’re all in this together.
And to strike
I would join one if it happens. I feel like one of the best ways to strike is just to stop buying shit. The economy thrives on American excess and consumption.
A consumption strike is still a strike, and honestly could be more effective than a traditional strike.
The US economy is essentially completely reliant on consumption at this point, it’s the place where we have the most leverage.
It’s also very easy for an authoritarian regime that is inbound by law to retaliate against traditional strikers. It’s much harder to force us to consume.
It also doesn’t have to be zero consumption, by loca, but used, use cash, barter, and trade.
We need to heavily reduce consumption anyway. Remember the three Rs? Reduce, Reuse, Recycle. The first two quickly got dropped, recycling took off for a while as it was the more profitable and easiest to shift blame onto the consumer while maintaining consumption. Then we all learned very little could be or was being recycled, it was just being dumped elsewhere. Excess buying is one thing totally under our control. Maybe a better society can also come out of it.
This is probably the only way a general strike in the U.S. would ever work. Employers are draconian, and nobody wants to be the first to risk their neck at their workplace for a normal strike.
The problem is organization, and keeping everybody to it for more than just a few days.
You explained that very well.
So you think people are going to pass on the last Christmas of We The People of the United States of America? You’re not wrong in your method but it’s like trying to get your workplace to unionize when they’re running on inertia, fear, and conflict avoidance.
Most people you know are conflict avoidant, sadly.
Oh I know it. Americans as a whole are selfish, spoiled and cowardly. Guess they have to learn the hard way.
Christmas is a losing battle for a consumer side strike. We gotta pick our battles, and that ain’t one of them. Pretty much any other time of the year would be fine, because for the most part people would only be personally sacrificing consuming things for themselves.
And it thrives on our LABOR
Everyone should save as much money as they can and probably not play the stock market. I have a feeling 401k’s are going to take a gigantic shit.
I have no idea what’s going to happen. I hope none of this happens. it’s just a very pessimistic gut feeling.
GENERAL STRIKE JAN 6
The voices of the workers will echo throughout the entire globe. Find a local left wing organization, organize, and when the day comes we fight like hell.
Jan 20. If we do Jan 6th, those who can’t hold out will go back to work 2 weeks later, and Trump will get credit for ending Biden’s strike.
Jan 6 for those who can hold out and Jan 20 for those who cant
It did not even take 5 posts for this global general strike to be split up into two huh 😅
Well people should strike on Jan 6 but not everyone can
General strike on January 6th?
Yup, its time for a general strike. Spread the word to all
You won’t even have to do anything, the Tariffs will.
And the loss of labor in the agricultural, construction, food service, and hospitality industries.
Demand 4: No new tarrifs.
Let’s do it. Start the plans. Make the sticky posts. I’m about it. Just tell me what I need to do.
That’s the beauty, you do nothing. Jk, no it starts with spreading the word but also ensure every one you tell that you have them. We need to come together and it will cost. Let them know we are in it together.
List of demands:
1 Biden expand the supreme court unopposed.
2 Federal legislation enshrining abortion rights, gay marriage, and decriminilizing Marijuana.
3 Legislation to expand Medicare and make it single payer.
60 million can’t beat trump at the ballot box but they can beat anyone who dare try to oppress them.
Is there a petition? A news letter? Anything for us to use all this anger and despair on right now?
There is your voice. Jan 6th. Stop the coup.
Okay but we need actionable plans before January if we plan on being any sort of opposition.
I want you to make the actionable plan. I trust you to be a leader that will disseminate the information. I’m just one guy who can’t take it anymore. We lead each other into this and there is no one person that can hold the bag.
The only actionable plans I can think of involved putting protective measures in state constitutions. The time for that has obviously passed. There aren’t many legitimate avenues through the government that I see.
We force the federal government to pass legislation. We force the federal government to appoint equal representation on the Supreme Court.
Build community. Volunteer at local organizations such as food bank or mutual aid, or just get your friends together and do something weird like a free public picnic in the park. It’s a lot of fun, you meet lots of cool people. And you make a community more able to resist and protect.
Also stock up on several weeks of food and goods. You’ll want to share when disaster happens.
Why strike when you can unionize?
Start building small unions for blue collar roles that focus primarily on employment protection, rather than pushing salaries high. From there, as the cost of living increases, push for a percentage increase that aligns, and strike fully if those demands aren’t met.
If Trump wants to block migration, then forming unions would be the defining legacy of a Trump administration. He can’t go for cheap foreign labour, and he can’t remove domestic…
Woo woo housing market is gonna craaaaaassshhhhh… just in time for me to leave the country to avoid persecution. Crap.
There is no greater strike then completely removing yourself from this nation. If you voted blue you were 10x the economic power any red state has ever offered.
Removing yourself from the nation? So your idea is to just remove what blue voters are left? Also do you have sources to back up your claims about economic power? California is a massive powerhouse but many other blue states just aren’t. Like Oregon.
Eh, almost every state has some key business headquartered or infrastructure deeply invested in it. Oregon has Intel, Nike, and several others I’m forgetting. The Bonneville power administration also supplies a significant portion of power to Seattle and California. Oregon may not be as significant, but it’s critical to California’s ability to be such.
That’s a good point. I’m out!
Bullshit like this always pisses me off. You look at the comments, no plan, no organization nothing but more pretty words. Keyboard jockey neo-liberals.
If you want to “resist”, go outside and organize with existing groups and participate. Don’t just talk about how cool it would be if we “stuck it to the man” and leave it there. Just saying “we should strike” doesn’t mean a fucking thing. Lots of people, myself included, can’t afford to strike. I could lose my job, then my home. Get real dude. Don’t just make half assed posts without any plans or actionable steps to jerk yourself off.
Bullshit like this is the exact reason we fail each other every fucking day. I’m asking you to lift others up and all you can do is put me down. I’m not special but I’m 10x more then you’ll ever be.
Then do something. Get off your keyboard and do something. Prove me wrong. Please, I want you to. But you won’t.
A general strike will take a lot of planning. I’d estimate that an intense organizing campaign over the span of a year could make it happen, if all the organizers are willing to set aside most of their personal life for that time. Add an additional year if the organizing committee cannot make that commitment. If we start the planning now, it could grind the Trump economy to a total halt in q4 2026, peak profit for most companies.
It doesn’t work unless you can cover the costs of all the many people living paycheck to paycheck.
Yes, precisely. That’s what all the planning is needed for.
Waiting for things to cool off is the one sure fire way to make sure it will never happen. Anyone tempted to subscribe to this belief has already in their head given up their freedom. Has already resided their fate and is ready for the new world order.
I’m not saying this out of ignorance. I’m a professional organizer. I’m telling you that a strike without planning is like jumping into the deep end without learning to swim. The strike will fail if things aren’t prepared first.
ETA: all said, if you want to start organizing this strike I will help. I absolutely agree, a strike is really the only tool left in our “peaceful protest” toolbox.
Occupy Wall Street is a perfect example of this. It may be too old for some to remember now, but the fire was there to do something, people showed up. Because there was no organization, no central message, lots of in fighting on why they were there, it totally failed. People were there interviewing active protestors, asked them what they are protesting and what the demand for change were, and they had nothing.
A lot like MAGA crowds. The difference is that MAGA has organization, not for the messages (which can be all over the place), but because it’s a cult of personality.
I wonder what kind of planning went into Seattle’s general strike. They didn’t even have easy means of communication back then.
I think that’s just the beauty of communications technology. We’ll be trying to reach far more people, but imo (based on the Minneapolis general strike) it will be approximately the same amount of effort
We need you, dummy. I’m not that. I’m know I’m not that. You are the litmus test. We don’t have you and people like you we don’t have a strike.
I’ll need a committee, friend. I was once where you were too, your passion is exactly what an organizing committee needs!
Okay, I’m serious. I can relay this to a senator I am related to. How can we get this started? I am willing to hand out my contact info to you.
I will contact you and OP to set up our first committee meeting!
Awesome, I look forward to it!
This is a take I actually agree with you on. Complacency is this country’s biggest flaw and why shit has cranked so hard to the right. But people need leaders with plans and social skills. In the same breath of saying inaction is deadly, so is unorganized action. That’s how movements die. Remember occupy Wall Street? Favorite example.
I’ve already done all the hard things occupy couldn’t. I set a deadline and given you three non-negotiables. Even if we leave the having gotten nothing we leave accomplishing what we set out to do, putting the economy in shambles and making sure trump actually has to create a successful one through policy.
LMAO you just get cuter and cuter don’t you lil guy
votes for the candidate openly talking about plans that only help the rich become richer
how could this happen?
Strike? Better make it quick.
When Trump fires and replaces the NLRB with loyalists, you’ll lose the NLRA that defends your right to strike. Without that, you’ll just get fired for job abandonment.
Jan 6th
