• Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
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    Move on? No.

    The next 4 years are going to be awful. Your choices are pretty much to fight like hell to limit the damage to your community, tune it all out to protect yourself from the stress, or find a way out of the country, at least until after the next election (god willing).

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      If you haven’t noticed that’s all of Lemmy. This is the last post I will make that is political related.

      • The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldM
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        I saw this post earlier and figured it was more of a meta post about discussions on Lemmy rather than a political post itself, but the thread is getting too heated for a meme community, and I’m going to lock.

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        Maybe delete it since it violates the rules anyway? Should help with your issues with political posts everywhere also.

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      There’s no moving on from this, it’s the last peaceful election we are gonna get.

      The idiots trying to downplay this are going to be very suprised in 3-4 years when they get drafted so the Republicans can declare martial law and stay in power for life

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    Sure!

    So how about this climate change huh? Ecological collapse in just a couple of decades from what I hear. And really no one with significant power anywhere doing anything but speeding it up.

    Discuss.

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    Are people dumb enough to think our world is going to continue as it has, just keep making memes, move on? We done fucked up, there will be nothing to move on to.

    • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world
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      Right? That was possibly the last election for president our country will hold. No, I can’t just move on from it.

      Like Biden will likely have to leave the country once he’s no longer president, along with his whole family. Taylor Swift might have to leave. Who knows what this raging narcissist will do.

      A man who will rape, which is sexual torture, doesnt care about you or your body except how it pleases him. Including killing you. We are very fucked. He will punish us until his narcissistic ego feels satiated.

      The US has the top military budget and nuclear weapons, which was just given to an open fascist who is clearly in the pocket of a foreign power, which has an interest in destroying our country.

      • Shark_Ra_Thanos@lemmy.ml
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        No. You and we all are too. Unless you Simpson the result this is it. The end. Go pic your damn last song for your and everyone’s life you got, maybe, 5 years left but I doubt that much.

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    11 hours ago

    If the past is any indicator of the future then we can expect the next four years to be non-stop Trump posting.

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    Can we just move on from the US 2024 election?

    Yeah sure. Just find someone who can put me in a medical coma, and I’ll ‘forget’ all about it.

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    No. No, we can’t “move on” from the election, because elections have consequences. We will never be able to “move on” because we will be continuously fucked by those consequences, in the ass with no lube, for the rest of our lives.

    Even if Trump and the GOP give up power and the US holds free and fair elections in four years, an absolute fuck-ton of permanent damage will have been done in the meantime.

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      There are so many things at stake, but people really don’t know how bad Trump’s supreme court has fucked the environment already. Getting the average voter to care about it won’t happen until it’s far too late. I try to just not think about it.

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    “He was only stabbed 23 times on the floor of the senate. We need to move on … and then finish wiping up the floor.”

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    This election is likely going to be looked back on as the point when things became completely untenable in the 21st century. The American empire will implode, billions will suffer, the climate emergency will accelerate to maximum, and geopolitical dynamics will become incredibly unstable. Shit is about to go fully awry. This was it, and the people who are already bored about it have played no small part in getting us here.

    • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world
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      After 10 years, there will be no megafauna looking back at anything. We extincted ourselves and the planet. By far the stupidest species is us, and the IQ test was whether we could just not kill ourselves with our own waste. There’s a species of insect in Africa that’s lived on 1 rock for thousands of years and they are smarter than us in this regard.

      We passed 7 of 9 planetary boundaries. We don’t talk about this or even the possible election interference that occurred because our media and journalism is broken. I can see personal videos on people’s personal accounts of the flooding in Spain, yet media in the US is failing to report extensively on this especially as a climate disaster. People literally believe that the government controls the weather before they believe that climate change is real (and please make sure to attribute all the increasingly bad disasters under Trump to him specifically).

      I have had conversations about why basic rights are necessary. Conversations where I’m citing the fucking constitution and posting videos of speeches from the fucking 60s. I have to explain why ableism is bad.

      Fascism is, frankly, part of the human collective psyche. It’s akin to an autoimmune response, so much so that there’s biochemical markers* in common with both states. The only way to calm down fascism is either let it eat itself (aka lots of death), or to be a collective anti-inflammatory. This means looking at things like Buddhist ideals of detachment and peace, Muslim ideals of charity (they invented the first hospitals which were free), Christian ideals of gathering together. Soothe and redirect (like a toddler) people who engage in inflammatory and violent speech. Win people over (being othering and exclusive is inflammatory - saying you can’t stand Trump voters is inflammatory and part of why those Trump people like Trump and Christianity - they include the deplorables).

      And btw if political structures are akin to lymphatic system, journalism and communications are our nervous system. Just like in the body, one can attack and modify the other - our autoimmune response has severely damaged our nervous system and we kinda have the societal equivalent of relearning from a stroke in some ways.

      *So much so that often a key dogwhistle for fascist speech is othering someone by calling them a tumor, parasite, cancer. Biochemicals responsible - low oxytocin (which is why they are pedophiles), histamine, mast cells, cortisol draining. See the undereye wasting of people in high stress including that little boy who was lost in the woods and in meth addicts

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        …between the branches of government, which the R’s just swept. Add in the fact that the supreme Court just gave the president criminal immunity if it’s “official” (a term they define), and who exactly is going to check and balance?

      • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world
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        Yeah and the ONLY check and balance that stopped Trump from taking over on Jan 6th was MIKE PENCE and he is no longer an obstacle

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          He didn’t try to take over on Jan 6. He made some dumb remarks that a group took as attack the capital.

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            https://www.factcheck.org/2023/08/what-trump-asked-of-pence/

            “I think it’s important that the American people know what happened in the days before January 6,” Pence said. “President Trump demanded that I use my authority as vice president presiding over the count of the Electoral College to essentially overturn the election by returning or literally rejecting votes. I had no authority to do that.”

            For those who might doubt him, Pence urged them to “read the indictment.”

            Pence is featured prominently throughout the 45-page indictment, but there are seven and a half pages that specifically deal with “The Defendant’s [Trump’s] Attempts to Enlist the Vice President to Fraudulently Alter the Election Results at the January 6 Certification Proceeding.”

            Dec. 23, 2020: Trump retweeted (and later deleted) a memo titled “Operation ‘PENCE’ CARD,” which, the indictment states, “falsely asserted that the Vice President could, among other things, unilaterally disqualify legitimate electors from six targeted states.”

            “Pence then gavels President Trump as re-elected.”

            Dec. 25, 2020: When Pence called Trump to wish him a Merry Christmas, Trump requested that Pence reject electoral votes on Jan. 6. Pence responded, as he had in previous conversations, “You know I don’t think I have the authority to change the outcome.”

            There’s more, see the link. Go ahead, learn something. It won’t hurt ya