• This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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    Democrats have to be deft and diplomatic and do the right things all the time that somehow appeal to all the Americans (including Americans on opposite sides like Palestine supporters and Israel supporters) and they lose if they fumble even a little bit.

    Unlike the MAGA party of bigots who can’t lose no matter how much of dipshits they are.

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      And when they lose they take the high road of blaming themselves. It’s en exercise in self flagellation.

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      I disagree. At the risk of oversimplifying, American voters tend to respect strength of conviction, even if they don’t always agree with the policy, over milquetoast candidates. That’s why Sanders attracted so many voters who went on to vote for the other party’s candidate in the general election. Democrats need to decide what they believe in, and say it long, loud, and proud.

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      Bro BFFR Dems had Dick and Liz Cheney endorsing her, exactly what part of their base is a war criminal and his nepo baby supposed to appeal to?

      Edit to add: this is who they sent to stump for Harris in Michigan and other swing states btw

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        She also had Taylor Swift, Bernie Sanders, Obama, Mark Cuban, multple military generals endorsing her, among others.

        But sure, it was the Cheneys that outweighed everyone else. That’s the problem, not American voters who didn’t think ‘holy shit everyone across the sociopolitical landscape is coming together supporting her, trump is that much of a serious threat’.

        Great work👍

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          You’re in the headline, btw.

          It’s insane to me how Democrats keep appealing to the right, when their historically greatest turnout has been galvanizing their base like with Obama.

          And yes, a war criminal’s endorsement is more important to me than a pop star’s. One of them actually works in policy.

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              I’m not American

              I…then why are you telling Americans that we’re wrong for thinking the DNC ran a shit campaign?? Like, you’re right, we’re in for a FUCKED time starting January 2025, but did you really expect people to turn out on election night out of an existential threat? Does that happen where you live?

              Harris didn’t lose because everyone voted for Trump, Harris lost because the Dem’s voter base felt so unheard by their own candidate regarding their issues that they stayed home, exactly as Bernie Sanders said. The numbers and voter stats are all there for people to read. Harris AND Trump got overall less votes than 2020, but Harris lost the Blue Wall from 2020. Hillary at least won the popular vote, Harris and the 2024 DNC don’t even have that.

              It doesn’t matter where you are in the world, voter turnout correlates to progressives getting in power. The conservatives always have a core base of ~20-30% of voters that will always show up (no really, look up historical voter numbers in your own country), and the DNC have really tried appealing to these people in the US instead of bringing out their own base!

              It’s a flawed strategy because it’s shown over and over again that these core voters will always vote through their conservative party lines.

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                I…then why are you telling Americans that we’re wrong for thinking the DNC ran a shit campaign?? Like, you’re right, we’re in for a FUCKED time starting January 2025, but did you really expect people to turn out on election night out of an existential threat?

                You’re right. Too stupid of me to think Americans would hold their noses and vote to keep someone who’s objectively worse for the whole planet out of the oval office.

                Does that happen where you live?

                No unfortunately, but I live in a third world country full of uneducated population. Again, dumb of me to assume Americans would be any different.

                Harris lost because the Dem’s voter base felt so unheard by their own candidate regarding their issues that they stayed home, exactly as Bernie Sanders said

                And they’re getting second Trump presidency. Good job riding that high horse. 👍

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          I mean she chose to spend the last weeks essentially campaigning with the cheneys that’s different than just an endorsement when they star in dozens of rallies.

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          For real, all these people blaming democrats for not winning when billionaires were literally buying votes to not be taxed by democrats. Seems like a campaign.

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            Well, if anything it proves that Unions work. Unions of billionaire media moguls especially. Many (soft, wealthy) hands coming together, to push in collectively towards a common goal of eliminating the National Labor Relations Board, the EPA, the SEC, and the IRS… it’s kind of beautiful, in its way. (/s)

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        exactly what part of their base is a war criminal and his nepo baby supposed to appeal to?

        Centrists. There was a reason that when Democrats took the House and Senate in 2006, they didn’t stop being a rubber stamp for Cheney’s war.