• WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        18 days ago

        Most of them at least (misguidedly) think they are doing the best thing for themselves/the country. Non-voters just couldn’t be bothered to take any responsibility at all.

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        Wow, what an incredibly stupid point to make.

        We didn’t win the race because we only put two wheels on the car. yEAh BuT whAT iF ThE fiNish linE WasNT So FAr FRoM THe StaRt…NoT thE RaCE TeaMs FAUlt.

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      18 days ago

      Would those votes have mattered? Last I checked on Nov 5 only 70k votes went to 3rd party and the gap between Harris and Trump was much greater

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        17 days ago

        The 20 million people who voted Biden but not Harris would have mattered. Non voters are the same kind of trash as MAGA

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        17 days ago

        3rd party defenders coming out of the woodwork. Sorry you are all to blame. Let’s make it easy for these fools and just say “everyone who didn’t vote blue” instead of “3rd party and nonvoters”. Put all the garbage in the same garbage bag.

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      You should blame yourself for not pushing the democrats to take a principled stance against Israel, or any kind of benefit for working people, or anything at all that would inspire people to vote that wasn’t the gun of fascism to their heads.

      “It’s HER turn” didn’t work for Hillary and it wasn’t going to work for Kamala.

      You may now proceed to gloat in your self-satisfaction and continue to not unionize your workplace, not join a mutual aid group, not join the SRA and be flabbergasted next time your efforts to tell people online to VOTE have the same effect.

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        17 days ago

        Why would I blame a german for democrat actions? I blame the voters in the US who chose fascism over democracy. These are Trump voters, Stein voters and non voters. They ensured there will never be a free election in the US again.

        And are you stupid? How can a german in germany join any of these organizations? You really are the dumbest person I argued with about this. You try to attack me personally and fail embarrassingly because you know nothing about you.

        From the tantrum you throw it looks like you are one of these vile pieces of garbage that didnt vote. Steigbügel Halter des Faschismus.

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          You are a fool to think fascism wasn’t already here under either democrats or republican. Democrats just put nicer lipstick on.

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              17 days ago

              That would require them to read a single book they talk about.

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              17 days ago

              I implore you to do the same.

              How many delegates did Kamala win in the primary?

              Who voted for her to be the democratic candidate?

              After you are done sifting through excuses I hope that you are able to aee the truth.

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        17 days ago

        You sure seem self satisfied. If you really did not vote, I hope you realize it’s your own hands that condemned your queer and non-white friends. Trump didn’t gain any voters from 2020. People on the left just didn’t show up. They didn’t vote. And because of that the most vulnerable people in this nation face an existential threat.

        Nonvoters sure showed the democratic elite! Now they will cry with their millions in donations. Wow they are suffering so much. Not like our trans and gay friends.

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          I’m not American, but yes I would have held my nose and voted for Harris just as most people on the left I know did.

          If Harris had spent time giving people some actual reasons to get excited to vote for her she would have had a surge, which is what I had been saying the entire time.

          I was also in the camp of people saying they needed to drop Biden while all you people were yelling at me that he needed to stay in. No shit the Dems had a surge in support when Harris stepped in. And you were all surprised. Then I was saying she needed to take a principled stance on Palestine and stand up to Israel. She would have got the next surge they needed but I kept getting shouted down by liberals. Imagine if they had spent some of that energy pushing Harris to actually do something that would inspire people.

          “I’m speaking!” Get fucked.

          You can’t count on people showing up in numbers when all you’re doing is giving them reasons to begrudgingly show up and vote for you because the alternative is worse. You need to actually give them a reason to get excited.

          The DNC and liberals are just bad strategists and amoral people. They fucked up and doomed us all. And the first thing they want to do is try to pin the blame on Palestinians for not being genocided quietly enough and other oppressed minorities for not voting hard enough.

          Minority groups are never going to be large enough to swing the vote anyway.

          There was nothing for the working class. Just pandering to Republicans who were never going to vote for her.