• LillyPip@lemmy.ca
    12·
    vor 24 Minuten

    To be fair, other countries want US citizens even less than the US wants* immigrants.

    Do people actually think that the US is alone in anti-immigration sentiment? Do they think it’s different because they’re American?

    The US is the one with a giant monument to immigration, at whose feet is a plaque that reads:

    Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

    And if they, of all people, are now against that, what makes Americans think anyone else will want them? It’s delusional.

    Many countries shut down immigration to Americans in 2016, after the first round of trump’s policies, and they haven’t opened back up yet, partly because there was a solid chance of this happening again.

    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
      5·
      vor 47 Minuten

      ???

      It’s easy as piss to emigrate from America as long as you:

      Are white, middle class, not provably disabled, not gay, with no criminal history, with at least one million in assets, as long as you don’t have a history of activism, already are hired by a local company, and have a STEM degree.

      See?

      Easy.

      • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
        1·
        vor 8 Minuten

        I checked out Canadian requirements. The first stage of screening asks your name, email and year of birth - which only goes back to 1970. So apparently I’m too old.

      • LillyPip@lemmy.ca
        2·
        vor 25 Minuten

        Hey, that’s not entirely fair. Russia is more than happy to accept Americans, so long as they’re willing to be cannon fodder for a while. I’m pretty sure they’re not even putting an age limit on it. If you survive, you may even get a small flat afterwards. And if you don’t, they may send your parents a Lada (providing they were Russian already).

    • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
      1·
      vor 10 Minuten

      The US wants immigrants, MAGA doesn’t want immigrants. And I can fully understand anybody not wanting MAGAs. I wish they would evaporate off the face of the Earth.

  • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
    1·
    vor 11 Minuten

    I’ve looked into it, believe me. New Zealand too. My wife is too rooted to our house, and we have an adult daughter still living at home with medical problems that would probably disqualify her.

  • raynethackery@lemmy.world
    1·
    vor 13 Minuten

    Don’t worry. He’ll be coming for Canada. You already have MAGA lovers up there. Who’s going to stop him? The Canadian military?

  • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
    26·
    vor 8 Stunden

    You can outlive this. There’s a good chance he can’t. Be strong, and look out for those more vulnerable than yourself.

    • Aeri@lemmy.world
      8·
      vor 2 Stunden

      My concern is that the train is still running at full speed even if the driver has died of a heart attack.

    • jballs@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      13·
      vor 6 Stunden

      I’ve been looking for silver linings. The two I’ve found are:

      1. Trump probably won’t live to see the end of his term. Dude is old and not exactly healthy. One could argue Vance taking his place would be worse, but I’m choosing to focus on the positives here.

      2. Trump winning very likely prevented a civil war. I know a ton of people who had been stocking up on supplies and weapons. Again, one could argue giving these people the keys to the kingdom probably wasn’t the smartest move, but again I’m trying to focus on the positives.

      • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
        19·
        vor 5 Stunden

        I think he’s the devil and he’ll never die. I wouldn’t count on him dying. In my experience really poisonous people live a long time.

        • jballs@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
          4·
          vor 4 Stunden

          Hey, quit shitting on my silver lining. I choose to believe he’ll die soon due to Macdonald’s induced heart failure and you can’t take that hope away from me!

        • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
          5·
          vor 5 Stunden

          It’s not like there was an assassination attempt during his rise to power and he survived with a headwound or anything like that, right?

      • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
        14·
        vor 6 Stunden

        Agreed on both points. The second means today is safer although Project 2025 spells danger ahead.

        As for Trump, his physical deterioration and dementia and just general chaos of intentions are more of a check on him accomplishing evil than anything legal or political. When he runs the economy completely off the rails will it spark anything in the midterms? Will his Cabinet change every week? How long until he “never met” Elon?

        So we draw breath, and persevere.

  • pixxelkick@lemmy.world
    50·
    vor 11 Stunden

    It’s not much better over here anyways, anti trans laws and oil industry dick sucking is ramping up more than ever.

  • Venia Silente@lemm.eeEnglish
    37·
    vor 11 Stunden

    Well, then kick him out. Or maybe guillotine him out, so that he doesn’t return.

    Like, if people were actually that irked that he won, they’d be doing something. But no, from what I hear El Trumpo actually won the popular vote: the US wants to be fascist. Maybe Canada too. (No, not as in the US wants to be Canada… although that’d be an improvement…)

    • The_v@lemmy.world
      9·
      vor 6 Stunden

      It’s a shit ton harder than people realize… well at least to go anywhere in the industrialized world. Unless you are independently wealthy or have an extremely high demand job.

      Billy Bob who’s career is working at McDonalds isn’t going to get approved.

      • curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        2·
        vor 5 Stunden

        have an extremely high demand job.

        I’m banking on this actually. My specialties are, and my wife’s is as well. So I’m reaching out to companies I know with a presence to see what my options are where I’d like to go, and decide from there. I doubt we will be the only ones though, so we’ll see what that ends up looking like.

        The only up side is I’m in a very niche specialty with broad experience, have contacts on both sides of the work I do.

        I think I’m in a better position than most, and I still think its going to be an uphill battle.

  • FireRetardant@lemmy.world
    20·
    vor 11 Stunden

    Canada is just america but 5-10 years behind on the crazy policies. It really isn’t any better and cost of living is often higher than in america.

    • RedditWanderer@lemmy.world
      4·
      vor 2 Stunden

      This is simply not true. Did America have universal medicine 5-10 years ago? Subsidized education? Abortion and trans rights? Refugee policies? The only country in America attempting to highlight the genocide in Gaza?

      Seems to me americans love to say Canada is americas retarded cousin (quoting tucker carlson) because it makes them feel better, but it’s simply not true.

  • jballs@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
    18·
    vor 11 Stunden

    Stay strong people! We Most of us* survived the last Trump presidency, we got this.

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      56·
      vor 11 Stunden

      Gaza won’t survive. Ukraine likely won’t survive.

      American democracy’s survival is questionable at best.

      I’m not saying ‘give up’. But we also have to recognize the magnitude of the impact this election is going to have. And many people who stay here despite everything are going to have their lives at risk.

      • RangerJosie@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        vor 47 Minuten

        All empires fall. This is just our turn. That isnt the scary part. The scary part is how failing empires often lash out militarily on the way out. And this one has nukes.

  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    14·
    vor 11 Stunden

    Immigration in most developed countries is stricter than the US. And we all know the US’s immigration restrictions are insane.

  • Valmond@lemmy.world
    9·
    vor 11 Stunden

    I remember that being said by the Hitlers (normal people but had the no longer so nice last name) about changing last name.