He wasn’t “all bad”, he apparently was very good with animals, like his dog Blondie. He was a vegetarian. And that’s probably everything which wasn’t bad. For the rest it’s all completely fucked up bad. No doubt about it.
Oh and I just remembered he was very good at giving directions. “were do I need to go?” “Take the third reich”
More than one in five apparently.
Sure, Hitler passed some of the first anti-smoking laws.
That doesn’t excuse all the other awful awful things he did.
Also his anti smoking laws failed as the war went on longer and longer.
And I’m guessing none of those Americans have had relatives who were actually living during WWII.
That’s crazy wtf.
I will do you one better. There are people thinking Stalin was not all that bad.
Kind of a loaded question to include the word “all” but I understand the lack of faith or respect for the USA right about now.
Hitler had one good idea. Right at the end when he decided to shoot himself.
Reminds me of this great street art I saw posted at some point. Can’t find the source though.
Related: we’ve all heard the stories of a time traveler going back to kill Hitler before his rise to power. One common theme in almost all those stories is that the attempt fails, that’s why history is as we remember. This morning has me thinking that maybe time travel was involved in a couple of Trump assassination attempts.
They did get Jenkins tho!
The only conclusion you can make is that Hitler is VERY good at killing time travelers.
Or we were forked into a garbage timeline to keep the main timeline from being irreparably harmed.
That’s not fair phrasing and will lead to high numbers.
Hitler wasn’t “all” bad technically, he was just so bad that the good shouldn’t matter at all. Pushing forward technology (VW Beetle, Autobahn) should is no way be justified by genocide (obviously).
A better question would have been something like “do you like Hitler overall?”
The full poll data: https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/Views_on_Hitler_poll_results.pdf
Do you think of Adolf Hitler as. . . ?
- A completely good person: 1%
- A good person who did some bad things: 4%
- An equally good and bad person: 7%
- A bad person who did some good things: 12%
- A completely bad person : 65%
- Not sure : 12%
So 12% felt he was at least as good as he was bad, 12% fell into the 'well, even a horrible person can do something right, and 12% were somehow not sure…
I mean … 35% think he’s not all bad. That’s more than 1 in 5 (20%)
This is interesting, thank you for sharing.
I personally would tally this up as “12%” rather than “24%”.
Or at least in my opinion, option “D” (bad person that did some good things) is most likely the closest to an objective answer and “E” (completely bad) is a totally acceptable summary. But both D and E both summarize Hitler as bad. The people summarizing him as “balanced” or “good” totaled to 12%.
To be clear, this is still horrific imo.
and 12% not sure aka couldn’t really make up their mind if Hitler was bad or not… so ads up to 24%
That’s fair, but we don’t know why they said they weren’t sure. Could be educational issues, memory issues, etc.
Not a good look either way. Wild to me that number is so high.
Yes a question about Hitler being good overall is far better. Attempting to shove him into an all bad category is just dishonest and allows opponents a free win. The good absolutely should matter, because painting people as all one thing isn’t accurate and makes understanding how things happen more difficult.
We’ve got to stop talking about “if” and “when.”
It’s NOW. This is happening. We are watching the rise of the next Hitler, now, live, today. This isn’t hypothetical anymore - yesterday just gave them carte blanche to go full stormtroopers.
At this point, all of our conversations need to be about how we stay safe in the wake.
He did great things.
The problem is that he only did them for people he liked. And he did TERRIBLE things to the people he didn’t like.
Skip to the part where the he knew he was going to lose. He gave jack shit about" his" people. He didn’t even care in 42 when the German army was surrounded in Stalingrad. No he thought only about himself and how to become a god and emperor. In fact he hated people in general. He had more love for his dog than an average person.
I would not be suprise if Herr Trumpf will have the same ideals. These could be the start of dark times for humanity. And I hope I am wrong.
Ummm I found the one in five… What “great” things are those?
education, housing, infrastructure, healthcare, etc. Again, only for people that he considered worthy.
I’m Jewish BTW. I don’t support Hitler. But you’d have to be ignorant of history not to realize that he did great things for so-called “aryans”.
Its important to remember as we see the rise of fascism in many countries right now. We need social programs that benefit all people, not just what your local authoritarian claims to be the “right” citizens
I’m not sure how true that is in terms of housing, healthcare, etc. Do you have any sources?
He did claim to have ended the Great Depression in Germany. While people have pointed to projects like the Autobahn, these projects only had a modest effect on unemployment.
What really brought down unemployment was massive deficit spending on expanding the army / rearmament and combined with conscription.
In addition, women, Jews, etc. were forced out of the workforce.
The problem was this was unsustainable. Nazi Germany began WW2 with a debt to GDP ratio greater than what the USA ended the war with.
It narrowly avoided a balance of payments crisis in 1934.
If it hadn’t invaded much of Europe and looted it’s wealth, the economy would have collapsed.
Source: Wages of Destruction: The making and breaking of the Nazi Economy by Adam Tooze.
You’re talking about the economy. I didn’t say anything about the economy. I’m talking about social services
This is how hitler came to power.
It’s like watching a horror movie. You know the killer is in the basement, yet people go and have a look while the audience knows what’s going to happen. A classic fuck around and find out.
Well we now know there are truly people stupid enough to do so.
I sometimes fear that
people think that fascism arrives in fancy dress
worn by grotesques and monsters
as played out in endless re-runs of the Nazis.Fascism arrives as your friend.
It will restore your honour,
make you feel proud,
protect your house,
give you a job,
clean up the neighbourhood,
remind you of how great you once were,
clear out the venal and the corrupt,
remove anything you feel is unlike you…It doesn’t walk in saying,
“Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution.”–Michael Rosen.
It doesn’t walk in saying, “Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution.”
Yeah but evidently it does, and people still choose it.
American fascism certainly does say those things, but it’s always other peoples’ faces the leopards will be eating.
U.S. opinion on the Nazi dictator remains more negative that it was at the height of World War II, when 25 percent of Americans said his ideas were correct
That’s pretty surprising, you’d think when they were fighting him they’d hate him most
Putin.
