Been saying this the whole time. Libs were shaming and harassing undecided voters for weeks instead of acknowledging that the dems were running a god awful campaign and pivoting towards nazi policies.
What are you talking about?!?! The Dems ran a flawless campaign, it’s all the voters who are wrong!!! Don’t know they know what the Dems tell them is right is right?!? Don’t you know you’re fucking stupid if you have any qualms about not voting for Harris?!?
90% of Lemmy users right now trying to find any reason to blame anyone but the DNC for their hubris and entitlement
please explain to me in what world, not voting for dems who are “tending towards nazi ideology” compared to someone who openly espouses nazi ideology is somehow the better choice.
I fail to see how, maybe i’m too intelligent and smart, but to me it seems like a really fucking simple choice.
I’m not commenting on the ethics of voting for Harris. I’m commenting on the hordes of people on lemmy and other social networks who were actively insulting anyone who expressed uncertainty in voting for Kamala. Actively insulting people who want to be on your side but are finding it difficult to support someone who is part of an administration that is actively funding a genocide.
Those people, in my opinion, pushed voters away by completely ignoring their concerns and telling them they are fucking stupid if they don’t vote democrat. It’s a brain dead strategy and mirrors the democrats campaign strategy, which categorically failed.
the problem here is not that they’re criticizing the candidate, nobody cares. The problem here is that they have rather minor inconsequential issues with the candidate, and they’re not pledging to vote, hoping that candidate 2 electric boogaloo magically shows up and solves all of their problems or something.
if you have problems with the harris admin, sure that’s fine, but you can’t sit there and go “idk if i should vote for her” knowing that trumps admin is going to be 10x worse in literally every aspect.
People hate it, but it’s just true. You would rather elect some drunkard homeless dude than hitler, if given the chance.
Actively insulting people who want to be on your side but are finding it difficult to support someone who is part of an administration that is actively funding a genocide.
ok to be clear, this is an extremely charitable statement. They don’t want to be on our side, they want us to be on their side. That’s why they aren’t voting. If they wanted to be on our side, they would just vote, because that’s all they would have to do.
Those people, in my opinion, pushed voters away by completely ignoring their concerns and telling them they are fucking stupid if they don’t vote democrat.
these people are what we call single issues voters, now say it with me, single issues voters are fucking useless.
to be clear, if you cut off you finger while making food or something (can be literally any example) and you ask me to take you to the hospital (on account of no longer having a finger) and i hand you a towel on the way out to the car, you aren’t going to stand there and go “well, hold on a minute now, why did you hand me a towel? I didn’t get wet, i just cut off my finger?” To which i would respond with “because you’re bleeding everywhere.”
and to be clear, i’m a political nihilist, if you don’t want to vote because you don’t care, that’s fine, whatever, just don’t come crying to me when the grim reaper shows up on your doorstep asking for a moment to chat. Either you accept the outcome of the election as is, or you fucking vote. Those are your options.
When you run to the right, and the people who like right-wing policies already have a party giving them the policies they want, they’re not gonna switch parties, and you’re just going to alienate the parts of your base/coalition that are affected by those policies.
Campaigning primarily on being the lesser evil and maintaining status quo failed, you can tell people 1 choice is slightly better all you want but on election day we found out that you can’t win that way. If the dem politicians actually want to win they’ll try a different strategy next time
When you run to the right, and the people who like right-wing policies already have a party giving them the policies they want, they’re not gonna switch parties, and you’re just going to alienate the parts of your base/coalition that are affected by those policies.
the harris campaign was not right wing, idk why you’re just making this shit up, there are more political ideologies aside from socialism and communism you know this right?
Been saying this the whole time. Libs were shaming and harassing undecided voters for weeks instead of acknowledging that the dems were running a god awful campaign and pivoting towards nazi policies.
What are you talking about?!?! The Dems ran a flawless campaign, it’s all the voters who are wrong!!! Don’t know they know what the Dems tell them is right is right?!? Don’t you know you’re fucking stupid if you have any qualms about not voting for Harris?!?
please explain to me in what world, not voting for dems who are “tending towards nazi ideology” compared to someone who openly espouses nazi ideology is somehow the better choice.
I fail to see how, maybe i’m too intelligent and smart, but to me it seems like a really fucking simple choice.
I’m not commenting on the ethics of voting for Harris. I’m commenting on the hordes of people on lemmy and other social networks who were actively insulting anyone who expressed uncertainty in voting for Kamala. Actively insulting people who want to be on your side but are finding it difficult to support someone who is part of an administration that is actively funding a genocide.
Those people, in my opinion, pushed voters away by completely ignoring their concerns and telling them they are fucking stupid if they don’t vote democrat. It’s a brain dead strategy and mirrors the democrats campaign strategy, which categorically failed.
the problem here is not that they’re criticizing the candidate, nobody cares. The problem here is that they have rather minor inconsequential issues with the candidate, and they’re not pledging to vote, hoping that candidate 2 electric boogaloo magically shows up and solves all of their problems or something.
if you have problems with the harris admin, sure that’s fine, but you can’t sit there and go “idk if i should vote for her” knowing that trumps admin is going to be 10x worse in literally every aspect.
People hate it, but it’s just true. You would rather elect some drunkard homeless dude than hitler, if given the chance.
ok to be clear, this is an extremely charitable statement. They don’t want to be on our side, they want us to be on their side. That’s why they aren’t voting. If they wanted to be on our side, they would just vote, because that’s all they would have to do.
these people are what we call single issues voters, now say it with me, single issues voters are fucking useless.
to be clear, if you cut off you finger while making food or something (can be literally any example) and you ask me to take you to the hospital (on account of no longer having a finger) and i hand you a towel on the way out to the car, you aren’t going to stand there and go “well, hold on a minute now, why did you hand me a towel? I didn’t get wet, i just cut off my finger?” To which i would respond with “because you’re bleeding everywhere.”
and to be clear, i’m a political nihilist, if you don’t want to vote because you don’t care, that’s fine, whatever, just don’t come crying to me when the grim reaper shows up on your doorstep asking for a moment to chat. Either you accept the outcome of the election as is, or you fucking vote. Those are your options.
When you run to the right, and the people who like right-wing policies already have a party giving them the policies they want, they’re not gonna switch parties, and you’re just going to alienate the parts of your base/coalition that are affected by those policies.
Campaigning primarily on being the lesser evil and maintaining status quo failed, you can tell people 1 choice is slightly better all you want but on election day we found out that you can’t win that way. If the dem politicians actually want to win they’ll try a different strategy next time
the harris campaign was not right wing, idk why you’re just making this shit up, there are more political ideologies aside from socialism and communism you know this right?
It was so right wing that it got endorsed by evil warmonger dick cheney.
and so did putin? Who gives a fuck who endorses what.
Clearly the campaign cared because they publicized Cheneys endorsement
yeah, cuz it’s marketable lmao. They publicized a lot of things.
Which policies are nazi-like?
The trump 2020 border agenda that the dems adopted as their own campaign promise this time around
Also, “most lethal military in the world”.