The CEO of AI search company Perplexity, Aravind Srinivas, has offered to cross picket lines and provide services to mitigate the effect of a strike by
OpenWebUI says it’s designed to operate entirely offline - that’s not an alternative to Perplexity. I need online search functionality, that’s pretty much the only reason why I pay them. I have offline solutions set up on my pc.
OWui has a search module which can be enabled. For me, running it entirely offline is more or less the draw. I think it also supports RAG search, although I don’t know how “good” it is… mostly I was just after a little magic box to play with.
Now, if only enterprise glass GPU’s weren’t so power hungry and expensive…
I just tried morphic.sh and ayesoul.com and both are solid alternatives I must say, although as I said, I just tried it so I’ll see how it goes, I’ll probably add an edit to this comment once I get acquainted with both.
I see no reason not to continue using the free version without an account, as long as I don’t encourage anyone to sign up. Does it benefit them in any way?
for search & summarisation purposes i will suggest kagi, it also lets you customise the source and their priority.
for everything else i have stopped using llm as i realised the productivity boost from them is not worth for the creativity loss i am getting.
sure. my primary use had been writing code and had been using GitHub copilot for about few months, i noticed i was struggling to write “creative ” or non-trivial code. non-trivial part made sense as obviously having written all the smaller or easier pieces would give better understanding for solving the non-trivial part. the “creative” part was a bit more concerning to me. explaining “creative” code in general terms is a bit hard but if you are dev too then think of something like quick sort vs merge sort. both are equally efficient but quick sort is something that feels not obvious. with copilot infact i was likely to come up with insertion sort. another added benefit i had felt after stopped using llm was work seems more fulfilling despite having to doing things like writing tests and documentation on my own.
that’s the general observation but you can ask anything specific on this as well that i missed out on.
Yeah I’ve been a Kagi subscriber since they opened up. My normal usage is perplexity when I want details about a topic summarized and Kagi when I am looking for a website.
Kagi also has some ethical concerns; like a shitty attitude towards compromises to support human safety (refusing to add suicide prevention links comes to mind) but the perplexity guy just took it to another level.
Damn. I liked Perplexity. Sucks to delete it, but this guy can fuck directly off.
I’m going to have to try the selfhosted variants now. What a huge piece of shit.
Any recommendations?
GPT4All and then any model you like. I like mistral.
Ditto! I run an old server, but would be willing to upgrade and self host a service instead of paying this ass hat any more money!
Okay, guys. Thanks!
Perplexica is one example. I also seem to remember there is some way to integrate it with SearxNG which is a self hosted meta search engine.
OpenWebUI? pretty easy to selfhost and works wonders on my rtx a6000
OpenWebUI says it’s designed to operate entirely offline - that’s not an alternative to Perplexity. I need online search functionality, that’s pretty much the only reason why I pay them. I have offline solutions set up on my pc.
oh, sorry. never used perplexity so i didnt know. if you find a viable alternative tell me pls
OWui has a search module which can be enabled. For me, running it entirely offline is more or less the draw. I think it also supports RAG search, although I don’t know how “good” it is… mostly I was just after a little magic box to play with.
Now, if only enterprise glass GPU’s weren’t so power hungry and expensive…
I just tried morphic.sh and ayesoul.com and both are solid alternatives I must say, although as I said, I just tried it so I’ll see how it goes, I’ll probably add an edit to this comment once I get acquainted with both.
I see no reason not to continue using the free version without an account, as long as I don’t encourage anyone to sign up. Does it benefit them in any way?
Edit: just for fun-
I assume that they’re still benefiting from your use via analytics and training data.
Ig that’s probably safe to assume. I do use a VPN and regularly clear the cache/storage, at least, and only run it in a separate profile
You can use Perplexica instead, which is a self-hosted open source alternative to Perplexity.
for search & summarisation purposes i will suggest kagi, it also lets you customise the source and their priority. for everything else i have stopped using llm as i realised the productivity boost from them is not worth for the creativity loss i am getting.
Do you have time to talk more about the creativity loss? Concerning!
sure. my primary use had been writing code and had been using GitHub copilot for about few months, i noticed i was struggling to write “creative ” or non-trivial code. non-trivial part made sense as obviously having written all the smaller or easier pieces would give better understanding for solving the non-trivial part. the “creative” part was a bit more concerning to me. explaining “creative” code in general terms is a bit hard but if you are dev too then think of something like quick sort vs merge sort. both are equally efficient but quick sort is something that feels not obvious. with copilot infact i was likely to come up with insertion sort. another added benefit i had felt after stopped using llm was work seems more fulfilling despite having to doing things like writing tests and documentation on my own.
that’s the general observation but you can ask anything specific on this as well that i missed out on.
Very interesting. Thanks for that, I’ll reflect on it a bit.
Yeah I’ve been a Kagi subscriber since they opened up. My normal usage is perplexity when I want details about a topic summarized and Kagi when I am looking for a website.
Kagi also has some ethical concerns; like a shitty attitude towards compromises to support human safety (refusing to add suicide prevention links comes to mind) but the perplexity guy just took it to another level.