Bruh. It’s not an echo chamber to filter out literal Nazis and other stuff. Ain’t nobody changing their mind from “spirited” internet debate and I don’t need their garbage in my day.
Then you are missing the point because there are tons of people who disagree with you who aren’t Nazis. OP is talking about how it’s great how you can only talk with people you agree with.
It has been awhile, but there were some Lemmy instances that people made to discuss Alt-Right viewpoints. They are all defederated now, but they caused quite the stir back in the day. Look it up. Here’s a start:
So, granted that there are not really (self-proclaimed neo-) Nazis here now, but this is still a fairly recent series of events in the shared consciousness of Lemmings. Also, fascism is alive and well world-wide, and on Lemmy very much in the open and in the here and now.
It seems that Discuss.Online keeps archival copies of such older messages rather than delete them after a defederation action. Try viewing them on that instance.
On a separate matter, this is a brand-new message that for that and perhaps other reasons I doubt you’ve seen but that you may be very interested to know about: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/6127949/5423163. The post itself is talking about the upcoming defederation between jlai.lu and lemmygrad.ml, which I’m sure you know about, but what I wanted to call your attention to is in the OP’s comment where they immediately start talking about a method to use a 2nd account or some other method to bypass that defederation attempt. They also float an idea to change the Lemmy sourcecode so that admins can no longer control which instances their users can access - this seems like an enormous security issue to me though (e.g. CSAM and other outright violent rhetoric that could get someone in trouble if it were on their machines).
Anyway no matter how you slice it, it is uh… “interesting”. The more of such discussions I see, the more glad I am that I switched to PieFed that does not depend upon the Lemmy sourcecode at all - even though Discuss.Online was great.
You are replying to a comment thread that is about blocking Nazis, it’s completely disingenuous to act like that’s not a legit problem and that anyone is talking about anything other than actual fucking Nazis. They are real. No one said everyone they disagree with is a Nazi because that’s fucking stupid.
No, OPs point was that they can block people they disagree, with the person above in this thread brought up Nazis when people pointed out how toxic that behaviour is in creating filter bubbles.
I.e. they brought up an extreme example at one end of the spectrum to make a point when we were discussing the spectrum more broadly
For example, the liberals endorsing genocide for realpolitik aren’t fascists, they’re just doing what American liberals have done since the founding of liberalism as an ideology.
I disagree with them but don’t call them Nazis and don’t think their opinions on other things shouldn’t be heard.
Bruh. It’s not an echo chamber to filter out literal Nazis and other stuff. Ain’t nobody changing their mind from “spirited” internet debate and I don’t need their garbage in my day.
If you really mean “literal Nazis”, that tends to support the hypothesis that you’re not being exposed to much that contradicts your worldview.
Tell me more about how you must listen to literal Nazis on a daily basis to contradict your worldview.
And if you don’t think Lemmy has or has had to deal with literal Nazis:
Lol
You are referring to literally everyone you disagree with as a Nazi. You are an example of someone who lives in a toxic filter bubble.
No, I don’t. When I call people Nazis and fascists it’s because I know what both of those words mean, being literate.
Then you are missing the point because there are tons of people who disagree with you who aren’t Nazis. OP is talking about how it’s great how you can only talk with people you agree with.
It has been awhile, but there were some Lemmy instances that people made to discuss Alt-Right viewpoints. They are all defederated now, but they caused quite the stir back in the day. Look it up. Here’s a start:
So, granted that there are not really (self-proclaimed neo-) Nazis here now, but this is still a fairly recent series of events in the shared consciousness of Lemmings. Also, fascism is alive and well world-wide, and on Lemmy very much in the open and in the here and now.
FYI, a few of those links are dead
It seems that Discuss.Online keeps archival copies of such older messages rather than delete them after a defederation action. Try viewing them on that instance.
On a separate matter, this is a brand-new message that for that and perhaps other reasons I doubt you’ve seen but that you may be very interested to know about: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/6127949/5423163. The post itself is talking about the upcoming defederation between jlai.lu and lemmygrad.ml, which I’m sure you know about, but what I wanted to call your attention to is in the OP’s comment where they immediately start talking about a method to use a 2nd account or some other method to bypass that defederation attempt. They also float an idea to change the Lemmy sourcecode so that admins can no longer control which instances their users can access - this seems like an enormous security issue to me though (e.g. CSAM and other outright violent rhetoric that could get someone in trouble if it were on their machines).
Anyway no matter how you slice it, it is uh… “interesting”. The more of such discussions I see, the more glad I am that I switched to PieFed that does not depend upon the Lemmy sourcecode at all - even though Discuss.Online was great.
You are replying to a comment thread that is about blocking Nazis, it’s completely disingenuous to act like that’s not a legit problem and that anyone is talking about anything other than actual fucking Nazis. They are real. No one said everyone they disagree with is a Nazi because that’s fucking stupid.
No, OPs point was that they can block people they disagree, with the person above in this thread brought up Nazis when people pointed out how toxic that behaviour is in creating filter bubbles.
I.e. they brought up an extreme example at one end of the spectrum to make a point when we were discussing the spectrum more broadly
No shit, genius.
For example, the liberals endorsing genocide for realpolitik aren’t fascists, they’re just doing what American liberals have done since the founding of liberalism as an ideology.
I disagree with them but don’t call them Nazis and don’t think their opinions on other things shouldn’t be heard.