Green politicians from across Europe on Friday called on U.S. Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein to withdraw from the race for the White House and endorse Democrat Kamala Harris instead.

“We are clear that Kamala Harris is the only candidate who can block Donald Trump and his anti-democratic, authoritarian policies from the White House,” Green parties from countries including Germany, France, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Ireland, Estonia, Belgium, Spain, Poland and Ukraine said in a statement, which was shared with POLITICO ahead of publication

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    Isn’t it too late for it to matter? At this point, she’s on the ballots that she’s on, isn’t she?

    Especially for states like Oregon that are primarily vote by mail. I already have my ballot, and Stein withdrawing won’t keep people from voting for her

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      Yes, her name is already on the ballots, like RFK Jr is still on the ballots in many states, but the hope is her supporters will listen to her endorsement. Just because a person’s name is on the ballot doesn’t force people to vote for that person. Some people have voted already, some will continue to vote for her out of protest, some will continue to vote for her because they didn’t hear she dropped out or didn’t care. But the hope is enough people will hear that she dropped out and endorsed Harris that their votes will come through for Harris.

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        When I went to vote last week and saw RFK Jr.'s name was still on the Indiana ballot, I burst out laughing.

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        You’re assuming we voted for jill because shes jill. Which is not the case for everyone. She got my vote because of Harris’ absolutely abysmal treatment of arabs and gaza, her lack of pro labor policies, etc etc etc.

        Jill dropping out would just meant the vote went to a different non-trump candidate or left blank.

        The only way harris would have gotten my vote was if she modified her position on gaza, or another key issues like ensuring kahn was kept.

        She declined to do so, so i declined to vote for her. 🤷 But harris will be fine my state is 20+ dem.

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          That’ll teach her! Way to go - you really stuck it to that horrible excuse of a candidate.

          It’s not like she had better labor policies (or practices) than that other guy (or did she?)

          It’s not like that other guy was (allegedly) working with an (alleged) war criminal to rebuff US efforts to make a ceasefire deal (or was he?)

          And finally, it’s not like AIPAC can literally thumbs up or down damn near any politician in the US like Julius H. Fucking, Ceasar and an almost universal bloc of voters will carry out their direction. Oh, wait, they will.

          The thing that pisses me off is that yeah, maybe she’s fine in Cali or Hawaii or wherever. But there’s gonna be a fuck of a lot more death and misery in the world if fascists get control of the United States in the form of Donald Trump, and in those few states that matter (because of the fucked up electoral college) that attitude , which I perceive as smug self-righteousness, could be the deciding factor.

          That simple worldview, unburdened with the whole idea of “you can’t make change if you’re not elected” must really be comfortable.

          But you sure showed Harris.

          I’d love to expound on this thought, but I have a fussy infant daughter that needs attending. BTW, it would be really cool if she FUCKING DIDN’T have to grow up in some goddamned Handmaid’s Tale dystopia.

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            I agree it would be great if your daughter didnt grow up in such a dystopia. So tell me have you been emailing your critters to let them know to reverse course on gaza? Worker rights, (ala khan, health care etc?). Did you vote for harris in the prinary (rhetorical question obv)?

            Gaza is such a low bar, ‘dont send weapons to a country genociding’ we even have laws already on the books for this. Harris wants to claim herself as law and order she can follow the fucking law.

            Now as i said i live in 20+ state. My vote is literally wasted on harris. The best outcome we can get w/ harris is an absolute squeeker of a win. If she loses she has no one to blame but herself shes been getting told for months to reverse course on gaza. Biden has been getting told for a year. Their refusal is whats caused this.

            Now ask yourself: would you vote for harris if she reversed course in gaza? If the answer is yes, then why havent you joined us in pressuring her? All it takes is a lie to pollsters, calls to your critters, and a willingness to reduce her win ratio in deep blue states. dont worry we’re not asking you to vote 3rd party in red/purple states. Vote harris in those places if you can, if you can’t no judgement its not your fault harris ran on these policies.

            Whats more important is that we get every possible vote out down ballot. harris is secondary concern. What matters more is the house/senate. A harris win is essentially useless if we cant pass legislation. While a harris loss control of those chambers will be incredibly critical.

            You want roe v wade codified, focus on local reps and congress critters, ballot measures. You’ll have more success.

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              I completely agree with your last two paragraphs. Regarding the rest, the other person that replied stated my thoughts in much more eloquent terms than I’m able at present.

              Edit: regarding the electoral and electorate math: I noticed you didn’t touch the “Trump working the Netenyahu to block a ceasefire” (which would obliviate the need for bombs), “you can’t govern if you can’t win”, and “AIPAC” topics, but also seem to think that all of this is Harris’ fault or she has control of this.

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                correct. Harris will win my state regardless of my vote, hence its perfectly fine to vote with my distaste for her policies on labor and genocide. harris’ problems lie in other states.

                As for trump and a ceasefire. I didn’t think I needed to; Unless harris literally does that one thing she has so far committed to not doing, enforcing US law on weapon shipments to countries committing war crimes, Netenyahu will continue to do what hes currently doing make any ceasefire agreement DOA making the two admins immaterially different in terms of outcomes.