The price seems pretty good. I don’t really know much about mini PCs. Do you think there is a better alternative?

Update: ok, not price efficient. Noted 👍

  • babybus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    3·
    9 hours ago

    What’s great about Mac minis is that they’re extremely power efficient since they’re ARM machines, so if you live somewhere like in Europe where power is expensive, it can save you a lot of money.

    I want to see numbers. How much is “a lot of money”?

    • suction@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      3 hours ago

      Cheap in Germany for example nowadays is 0,20 EUR / KWh + 15 EUR / month base fee. Most people have more expensive contracts though, 0,30 EUR / KWh and more

    • stuner@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      5 hours ago

      I don’t have a Mac Mini, but for always-on systems, the idle power consumption can become quite significant.

      • Gaming PCs can consume up to 100W (876 kWh / year).
      • My AMD B650 NAS consumes about 17W in idle (150 kWh / year).
      • A NUC / Mac Mini can idle as low as 5W (44 kWh / year).

      If you pay 0.30$/kWh, running your old 100W gaming PC all the time would cost you 263$ per year. My NAS is 45$ per year…

      It also depends on what you need/want from the machine. The Mac Mini doesn’t have any HDDs and can’t run a regular Linux distro, for example.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        3 hours ago

        Would the Mac Mini actually idle at that wattage if it’s open for connections? I doubt it, it’s probably more like 10W, which is generally the range for those smaller AMD MiniPCs or NUCs.

        If it’s 10W, that’s a $20 savings from your NAS w/ a desktop CPU (and probably a discrete GPU, unless it’s running an APU). I can get 4% easily on savings, so I’d only need a $500 savings vs the Mac Mini to recoup that difference every year ($500 * 4% = $20). So if you already have an old PC, use that instead of buying a Mac Mini, and you also won’t have to fight macOS to do what you want.

        • stuner@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          2 hours ago

          I do think it can achieve that while waiting for network packets (see e.g. https://www.anandtech.com/show/16252/mac-mini-apple-m1-tested).

          But in terms of money savings it would rarely make sense, as you need to make it back during the time you run the system. If we assume 6 years lifetime then it would only make sense to pay $120 more. But yes, I’d also go for a system that runs regular Linux :)

    • tahoe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      7 hours ago

      I’m no lab scientist but when I switched from a hackintosh to an M1 Mac mini a few years ago, my total electricity consumption went down by around 15-20%. This can mean a lot on the long run if you’re tight on budget.