• jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 hours ago

    More obv. My post was a warning that a 2nd term would not be good.

    You should probably learn how to hedge your bets. What if harris doesn’t win? Would it be better or worse if we had more dems in congress for a trump pres?

    Isn’t it better if people who wouldnt show up for harris still show up to vote dems down ballot? Maybe stop attacking them over Harris and invite them to vote down ballot for dems by supporting their cause. Unless, you know, you’re pro genocide then you can fuck right off.

    Stop making harris support your identity makes you look like an asshole.

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      5 hours ago

      In what ways will it be worse / more Nazi than under Nixon? Healthcare? Infrastructure? Minority rights? Black rights? Waging wars and supporting genocide in some third world country? Sorry to break it to you but US was always a borderline fascist state and that includes Democrats.

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        Lol exactly what you think you’ll accomplish this line of reasoning? That you’ll convince people harris is the best option for their vote? You wont.

        That entire list is better dealt at congressional and local levels of the ballot, and is entirely unrelated to the presidential ticket. Stop wasting your breath on a failed argument. Also are you sure you’re responding to the correct person? Im well aware America has/is borderline fascist.

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          I’m trying to explain to Dem voters that their moral high ground and calling everyone a Nazi will lead Republican voters to entrench in views pushed by far right even if they didn’t hold them before. Dem voters are supposed to be the smart ones so they should understand that, right?

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            28 minutes ago

            So you’re arguing with a leftist to convince liberals that they’re assholes? 😵‍💫. I mean I already knew this, but okay. Not particularly interested in discussing the million ways trump is horrible.

            Im more interested in making sure harris campaign is as rough and hard as possible because her positions are absolutely atrocious and we as voters need to leverage the conditions of our local voting environments effectively by voting strategically against her without risking trump.

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              Yeah, that’s what I’m warning you about. This approach has been tried. Whatever happens, it was already decided because you’re not going to course correct at eleventh hour and root cause of general discontent are is much deeper than you want to admit.

              If you lose you’ll go into democratic resistance, fight every single thing Trump does. By second or third year regular people notice that not much is changing in their lives and then you lose all of your steam. When actual bad stuff happens nobody cares.

              Then in a couple of terms people will get tired of the right, vote for the libs and then you realise that those Dems have adopted lots of stuff Republicans did because that was the only way to get back into power. And that it was always about power. I’ll be there to say „told you so”.