We can only hope. But then again, we saw how people act when it comes to those changes. They will try it for a bit but then fall right back and accept the shit they wanted to flee from.
i switched to a chromium browser for features that have since been added to firefox. if something serious were to happen, i will gladly switch back over.
He means “if it actually happens/my shit stops working one day” he will switch.
We’ve been listening to this shit for like 2 years between Manifest V3 and this, I’ve never had a single difference in ads that entire time on Vivaldi.
It’s got baked in features that run lighter than what Firefox would be with the equivalent extensions and plugins, if it stops working then I’ll switch. Running Firefox isn’t going to stop this from happening, if and when. Only massive user backlash after implementation will solve the issue, same as when Lemmy was created.
I seriously doubt any amount of user backlash will help put the genie back in the bottle, once it’s out. And nobody is going to change to the browser that can’t access the popular site du jour that now requires WEI attestation to access. If WEI gets rolling it’ll be impossible to fight.
That said I totally understand this is almost certainly already lost. Chromium’s market share is unassailable and there’s no way we can convince enough people to swap off it until there’s nothing to swap to. It just sucks to think nothing can be done, so please forgive people like me for trying anyway.
Your version of trying is just shouting at the same group of 2000 people nonstop. Everyone here is already onboard or isn’t going to.
I highly doubt everyone is just going to go “oh damn, Brave/Vivaldi/Firefox stopped working, guess I just HAVE to download chrome now.”
Like you realize monopoly and antitrust lawsuits are a thing, right? If the ONLY option is Chrome via WEI there will be a lawsuit about fifteen minutes behind it.
It won’t be the only option, it’ll just be the only practical option because some sites will only support WEI. I see any antitrust case being rejected on those grounds, and on the grounds of other browsers choosing not to support WEI.
On one hand I agree but on the other I feel like ads are a lot more trouble than a new browser to most users so that part might actually work for us. The really sad thing is that all browsers want to support all majore websites and once something like Youtube requires web DRM we basically lost because everyone will add it! :/
We can only hope. But then again, we saw how people act when it comes to those changes. They will try it for a bit but then fall right back and accept the shit they wanted to flee from.
Nah, Firefox is actually a good browser. I’ve switched to Firefox ever since I heard about the upcoming changes and have never wanted to switch back.
i switched to a chromium browser for features that have since been added to firefox. if something serious were to happen, i will gladly switch back over.
Look up WEI API. Something serious is happening.
He means “if it actually happens/my shit stops working one day” he will switch.
We’ve been listening to this shit for like 2 years between Manifest V3 and this, I’ve never had a single difference in ads that entire time on Vivaldi.
It’s got baked in features that run lighter than what Firefox would be with the equivalent extensions and plugins, if it stops working then I’ll switch. Running Firefox isn’t going to stop this from happening, if and when. Only massive user backlash after implementation will solve the issue, same as when Lemmy was created.
I seriously doubt any amount of user backlash will help put the genie back in the bottle, once it’s out. And nobody is going to change to the browser that can’t access the popular site du jour that now requires WEI attestation to access. If WEI gets rolling it’ll be impossible to fight.
That said I totally understand this is almost certainly already lost. Chromium’s market share is unassailable and there’s no way we can convince enough people to swap off it until there’s nothing to swap to. It just sucks to think nothing can be done, so please forgive people like me for trying anyway.
Your version of trying is just shouting at the same group of 2000 people nonstop. Everyone here is already onboard or isn’t going to.
I highly doubt everyone is just going to go “oh damn, Brave/Vivaldi/Firefox stopped working, guess I just HAVE to download chrome now.”
Like you realize monopoly and antitrust lawsuits are a thing, right? If the ONLY option is Chrome via WEI there will be a lawsuit about fifteen minutes behind it.
It won’t be the only option, it’ll just be the only practical option because some sites will only support WEI. I see any antitrust case being rejected on those grounds, and on the grounds of other browsers choosing not to support WEI.
On one hand I agree but on the other I feel like ads are a lot more trouble than a new browser to most users so that part might actually work for us. The really sad thing is that all browsers want to support all majore websites and once something like Youtube requires web DRM we basically lost because everyone will add it! :/