• schroedingershat@lemmy.world
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      That’s a feeling, not a lack of safety. Intimidating people into buying big cars on purpose is still vile, but the people who cave are giving in to irrationality and putting their feelings above the safety of their kids and of others. Tragedy of the commons is when defecting improves your utility. The SUV/emotional support truck arms race is only decreases the utility of others in exchange for feelings of power.

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        The feeling of power and safety, itself, has utility. Feelings matter.

        No argument that there’s been an active propaganda campaign to make people in smaller cars feel less safe, but propaganda works. You can’t just dismiss it.

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          I can object to it being used to justify killing kids for a feeling though. Which is what you were doing by suggesting it’s a prisoner’s dilemma.

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              Now you’re dodging the point. You’re spreading the harmful propaganda, and using the fact that it’s effective to justify spreading it.

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                I edited my original comment to make my point clearer - you’re right that larger vehicles don’t actually make anyone safer.

                I maintain that the illusion of safety is, itself, the motivation for why people are buying these vehicles. That’s not a cultural thing, but rather, an irrational and instinctual thing. As long as these huge vehicles are allowed on the road, everyone else is terrified into buying their own. Statistically a large murder machine doesn’t make you safer, but being able to see the road when you’re surrounded by other huge murder machines will make people feel safer regardless of culture.

                You aren’t going to get these things off the road by shaming people. We have to make them illegal.

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          Which does not override the lack of safety of a tall heavy vehicle. Small cars are not less safe than emotional support trucks and full sized SUVs, because the latter get specific exemptions from safety regulations.

          “I’m going to increase the probability of killing my kid, innocent hystanders because of this one specific critereon i’ve cherry picked” is an emotional argument.