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    I know Vader choked the life out of the last person who questioned him, but I haven’t seen Leia do enough challenging media interviews.

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    Why do you support terrorists?

    The Empire has a right to defend itself

    Those Rebel Terrorists were using human shields

    The ones responsible for the destruction of Alderaan were those Rebel Terrorists, we gave a very humane 30 minute evacuation warning after all

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      The rebels destroyed Alderaan with their own superweapon they had been developing underground. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

      OK, the Death Star did fire on Alderaan, but it was a targeted, focused strike that hit a rebel facility which caused their superweapon to explode and destroy the planet, the Empire had no idea that would happen. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

      OK, the Death Star did destroy the planet, but the rebels were still developing a superweapon and even more people would’ve died otherwise. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

      OK, the rebels weren’t developing a superweapon on Alderaan, but the destruction of the planet were the actions of a rogue moff acting without approval. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

      OK, the Emperor’s right hand man was in the room when it was decided, but Emperor Palpatine has invited every surviving Alderaanian to his own private resort world, and they’re also rebuilding with a new colony on Ejolus. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

      OK, the colony on Ejolus has been wiped out, but they were harboring rebels. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

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      So your argument is that everybody is evil and thus we should give up voting and thus ensuring that there is no hope for democracy vs. Accepting even 1% chance that this election won’t change our future for the better?

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        Lol removed for “misinformation”. I’m saying that a system that produces genocides, no matter who you vote for is a lost cause. It sucks, it’s depressing, and I don’t fault you for coping with it however you see fit. For myself, well, I can’t explain myself too well without sounding like I’m insulting you, but I won’t sign my name in support of someone who looks an awful lot to me (okay mods?) like a genocidal monster.

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    ‘Princess’ establishment chosen Lyin’ Leiyah is clearly just trying to turn the empire back into the corrupt old Republic and force everyone to accept all aliens including the despicable Gran who don’t deserve rights because they don’t look or act like me. I heard she was even there when Alderaan was destroyed and did nothing.

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    Death Stars don’t kill people. Traitors who won’t give up the location of the secret Rebel base kill people.

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      Nope and nope.

      Guess who’s ringing up Netanyahu telling him not to agree authenticity the ceasefire? Yes, that’s right, the nation’s most popular insurrectionist and peace hater, Donald J Trump, and guess whose geriatric genocidal actions were not mentioned by you at all in a heroic act of something I’m sure psychologists have a name for, yes that’s right, it’s that loony loopy idtiot former president, losing his marbles in public on the television, yes, it’s two for two, good old (well, ok, old at least), Donald J Trump!

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          I think Trump has been ringing up Netanyahu regularly to argue against Israel agreeing to Biden’s ceasefire plan, like he said he is, so Trump is working to keep the genocide in Gaza going and you can’t bring yourself to admit this or talk about it while Trump felt admits it and even boasts of it in public.

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            I’ll admit it right now. Not that it matters why Netanyahu is refusing to negotiate.

            You seem to be under the impression that “negotiation” means “asking nicely and giving up if they say no.” If Netanyahu refuses to cooperate, you stop giving him weapons until he does. Obviously. How bad do you have to be at negotiating to not realize that?

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              So you admit that Trump is actively working to prolong the genocide in Gaza and then you ignore that and come straight back with your weird logic that the people who are trying to stop him are culpable and the people trying to get him to kill more gets a pass from you, and you want me to believe you care about Gaza?! You do not, you’re just cynically using it as a political football to try and win the election for stupid, senile and angry old man Donald “finish them” “best king of Israel” Trump.

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                So you believe that Biden should be completely immune to all criticism no matter what he does so long as he’s not Trump? I should just invent a fantasy world where Biden is perfect the way you do because acknowledging reality might hurt Kamala’s chances? If I was interested in doing that, then I would’ve done it with the beliefs I was raised with, and I’d be a religious conservative. Fortunately, I’m willing to think critically and face reality, instead of putting party above truth, as you seem to be suggesting I do right now. I want no part in any group or political ideology that requires me to lie or ignore the truth.

                Keep repeating that conspiracy theory to yourself all you want. Ad hominem is the only response you libs can ever muster. You can’t refute what I actually say, so you just focus on trying to paint me as a secret Trump supporter. Weak.

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                  It’s not ad hominem to point out that all of your criticisms are for the Democrats and you can barely muster half a sentence of admission that trump might not be the savior of Gaza you’re implying, and that your whole argument is politically biased against the Democrats and for the republicans.

                  If you don’t want to be accused of being a trump supporter, at least make some effort towards even a tiny bit of balance. But no, you can’t do it. For you, any factual criticism of trump and the republicans must be countered by a wall of conspiracy theory about how Biden’s attempts to negotiate peace are secretly war mongering and trump’s open and boastful war mongering is swept under the carpet.

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            Why can’t both be true? Sure. Trump tells Netanyahu not to accept the ceasefire. And when Netanyahu says no, rather than doing something to further pressure him, like making the munitions we send them conditional on a ceasefire, he just gives up and sends more bombs.

            We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of options! We asked him nicely to stop and he told us no. :(

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              One of two people will be president next: Kamala Harris or Donald Trump. It’s very important for the people of Gaza that it’s Kamala, not Trump. It’s a literal binary choice that the country faces. And then there’s the denying healthcare to women of childbearing age, the mass deportations, the plan to be dictator on day one, all of project 2025, the plan to send the military against leftwingers for disagreeing with Trump, all apart from the simping, fawning and sucking up to every dictator Trump can wheedle an appointment with and who has the nous to realise Trump will love them forever just for calling him clever or strong in public. I used to think that Putin had some compromat on Trump that kept him doing his bidding, but it became painfully obvious that that’s not needed, and Putin just needs to whisper in his ear that he’s a great leader and everyone respects him, and Trump is bought, yes, all that cheaply.

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                I 100% agree with you on everything in this comment. My only point is that regardless of how badly trump wants to finish the job, Harris certainly doesn’t seem to want to stop it. And as such, she isn’t free from criticism. Moreover she needs to hear more criticism to push her into walking back her support of Israel “defending itself” by retaliating in a wildly disproportionate fashion. And the key time to do it was in the lead up to the election, because if she felt like enough people were upset about it that it could cost her the election, it had a higher chance of making a difference.

                It’s possible to believe Trump is an evil piece of shit, but also that Harris needs to improve. Just because she’s the better choice doesn’t mean she’s perfect.

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      Nope and nope.

      Guess who’s ringing up Netanyahu telling him not to agree authenticity the ceasefire? Yes, that’s right, the nation’s most popular insurrectionist and peace hater, Donald J Trump, and guess whose geriatric genocidal actions were not mentioned by you at all in a heroic act of something I’m sure psychologists have a name for, yes that’s right, it’s that loony loopy idtiot former president, losing his marbles in public on the television, yes, it’s two for two, good old (well, ok, old at least), Donald J Trump!

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          Hey. Moderator here. Your attack on their intelligence is a rule violation. Please either delete this comment, or update it so you’re not insulting somebody. If you don’t in 2 hours, I will be forced to delete your comment. If you continue down this path, you will receive a temporary ban.

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          (I deleted that comment because I accidentally posted it twice. It’s one of the other replies to your post.)

          NYT thinks Israel has a massive stockpile of weapons, other suppliers and actually recently exported a record value of arms in the year containing the October 7 attack and the insane obliterative war that Israel launched in response. I don’t think Israel is worried about running out of weapons any time soon, because they’ve opened up another front against Lebanon!

          You know who could stop the war today? Netanyahu. Do you know who’s telling him not to stop on the phone, on a regular basis? Trump. He even boasts of it.

          taken in… grade A moron… you’re dumb.

          I don’t appreciate being called names just because you disagree with me, and I don’t think it strengthens your case that you resort to that as a debating tactic.

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            I’m not disagreeing with you about a matter of opinion or ideology. I’m disagreeing with you on a matter of basic critical thinking and awareness of the material reality of the situation. On the former you have a point. On the latter it’s a disservice to the overall discourse to give you so much grace as to not call you an idiot. Your views on this matter are not valid and there is a correct answer.

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              there is a correct answe

              That trump is working to prolong the hate fuelled war and Biden is working to stop it.